How Stupid Are They?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Did this "conversation" about petroleum and organics actually go somewhere? What just happened?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I guess I need to side with Webenda here.
I was a believer in the decayed dinosaur theory of petroleum until I read that in the Gulf played-out wells were refilling. Some might think that more decayed dinosaurs had popped up, but now I doubt the dinosaur theory.
I also doubt any and all science stated as dogma.

It is my dogma to just doubt dogma......dogmatically!

However, I can understand how "played out" wells can "refill" w/o that contradicting the organic decay theories

More on this, please

Fluids flow from place to place given pressure and opportunity; pumping stuff out creates vacancy whereby existing fluid from elsewhere over time may flow into said vacant space over time. The earth is not static.

[Tom Dempsey]

Did this "conversation" about petroleum and organics actually go somewhere? What just happened?

Made me want to throw rocks at the whole bunch of you guys busily dancing on the head of a pin, then you confused me with just what constitutes a rock, so I gave up and played with my trains.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Did this "conversation" about petroleum and organics actually go somewhere? What just happened?

Made me want to throw rocks at the whole bunch of you guys busily dancing on the head of a pin, then you confused me with just what constitutes a rock, so I gave up and played with my trains.

Oh, Thank You, Tom, for the feedback!!!! I was beginning to wonder if it were just I who was getting a bit dubious ( of doubtful promise or outcome; questionable or suspect as to the true nature or quality) in a chase about ????????? Yeeegods.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Did this "conversation" about petroleum and organics actually go somewhere? What just happened?

Made me want to throw rocks at the whole bunch of you guys busily dancing on the head of a pin, then you confused me with just what constitutes a rock, so I gave up and played with my trains.

Oh, Thank You, Tom, for the feedback!!!! I was beginning to wonder if it were just I who was getting a bit dubious ( of doubtful promise or outcome; questionable or suspect as to the true nature or quality) in a chase about ????????? Yeeegods.

And now we dance!

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Dance? I wish I could. I used to, but my wife, after one of my joie de vivre "performances" at a family wedding, "encouraged me" to stop and desist. I did. (Though I was not as thin as you are, above, the moves were the same.)

[chuck]

Definition of a "rock"

"Rock or stone is a natural substance, a solid aggregate of one or more minerals or mineraloids." ......
"Three major groups of rocks are defined: igneous, sedimentary, and metamorphic."

Coal is considered a sedimentary rock. The organic material (origin) is plant material.

"Sedimentary rocks are formed at the earth's surface by the accumulation and cementation of fragments of earlier rocks, minerals, and organisms[6] or as chemical precipitates and organic growths in water (sedimentation)."

Petroleum, aka "crude" oil is extracted from rock, it's not rock per se. I've never heard that oil comes from dinosaurs?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Hi Chuck:

[Roy]

I've never heard that oil comes from dinosaurs?

I think that urban myth can be traced to the La Brea tar pits. The pits have been here for thousands of years, trapping specimens of many animals that are now extinct.

[chuck]

So that means Mobil gas comes from flying horses and Esso from tigers?

Shell is iffy but a lot closer than everything else thrown out there.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Pretty clever sense of humor, Chuck. You never disappoint.
Murph

[webenda]

So that means Mobil gas comes from flying horses and Esso from tigers?

Shell is iffy but a lot closer than everything else thrown out there.

Chuck, do you know how right you are?

Oil comes from limestone and limestone comes from

Limestone is a sedimentary rock, composed mainly of skeletal fragments of marine organisms such as coral, forams and molluscs.

Shell oil apparently knew the true source of mineral oil from the beginning, why else would they choose a clamshell as a logo?

https://www.logodesignlove.com/shell-lo ... -evolution

[chuck]

Might be but the choice of the name and logo is much more mundane and predates involvement in the petroleum industries. Maybe the founders were psychic.

Name and logo

The name Shell is linked to The "Shell" Transport and Trading Company.[60] In 1833, the founder's father, Marcus Samuel Sr., founded an import business to sell seashells to London collectors. When collecting seashell specimens in the Caspian Sea area in 1892, the younger Samuel realised there was potential in exporting lamp oil from the region and commissioned the world's first purpose-built oil tanker, the Murex (Latin for a type of snail shell), to enter this market; by 1907 the company had a fleet. Although for several decades the company had a refinery at Shell Haven on the Thames, there is no evidence of this having provided the name.[61]

The Shell logo is one of the most familiar commercial symbols in the world. This logo is known as the "pecten" after the sea shell Pecten maximus (the giant scallop), on which its design is based. The yellow and red colours used are thought[62] to relate to the colours of the flag of Spain, as Shell built early service stations in California, previously a Spanish colony. The current revision of the logo was designed by Raymond Loewy in 1971.[63]

There's good old Raymond Loewy working his magic!

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I found a source that supports Wayne's statements, and contrary statements, about coal being a rock (or not): ThoughtCo. "Everything You Need to Know About Coal."

They state, "Because coal is organic it defies normal standards for rocks...Coal, the organic rock...Geology is full of exceptions to the rule...Talk to a geologist and they'll tell you coal is a Sedimentary Rock...found between sheets of sedimentary rock...Utah and West Virginia list coal as their official state rock..."


Life is complicated.

Thinking is fun.

[HONDO74]

Does anyone find it interesting that everything that HUMANS were going to need in their future of evolution was available on this planet called earth. Where would we be today without the use of fossil fuels ???