Northern weather

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Driving across and back twice a year......and it's a flat wasteland that stretches from end to end of farming interspersed with the occasional outpost of pseudo-civilization and a handful of actual cities. Rt. 70 might be used at some point as a tool for hypnotists and/or as a prep session for lobotomies....

You should probably avoid road trips through Montana or West Texas.

Airplanes.....

Yet, Ohio would not be my 1st guess to possess such a condition.

[J. S. Bach]

Back down to 16 today........and snow in the distance...

That's a good place for it. The snow, that is.

[Mitch]

Driving across and back twice a year......and it's a flat wasteland that stretches from end to end of farming interspersed with the occasional outpost of pseudo-civilization and a handful of actual cities. Rt. 70 might be used at some point as a tool for hypnotists and/or as a prep session for lobotomies....

You should probably avoid road trips through Montana or West Texas.

And you should avoid I 70 through Illinois, along with I 80 through Illinois, Iowa, or Nebraska. You could put the car on cruise and jump in the back seat for a nap.

[healey36]

Same for northern New Mexico, southern Colorado, El Paso to Denver on I-25.

[rogruth]

Maybe all interstates should be avoided?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Maybe all interstates should be avoided?

Many times, that certainly seems the less tedious. Not too long ago, I took Rufus' advice, about my longtime custom of driving from the PA Turnpike from Pittsburgh north up to Rt.80, by taking Rt.81, my usual route for the past several decades, and got off to take the parallel Rt.11. northward. The change from Rt81 to Rt11 made all the difference in my enjoyment of that journey. I still take it when making the trip, to this day.

However, I must say, that when I traveled from NJ to Kansas City, a couple summers ago, to go to a client's home, to work on his layout, I took the Interstates strictly. The reason was that the route was totally unfamiliar to me, once I was west of Ohio, and taking local roads can, at times, IMO, lead one into neighborhoods that are questionable, at best, and at other times downright dangerous. Also, the interstates seemed more efficient, and afterall, I was making the trip for business-pleasure, not solely for leisure.
Murph

[healey36]

As Sarge likes to say, you need to hit the 'B' roads, Murph. The Interstates are great for fastest-route from point A to B, but you gotta hit the secondary roads to see America (warts and all).

Healey

[MurphOnMillerAve]

As Sarge likes to say, you need to hit the 'B' roads, Murph. The Interstates are great for fastest-route from point A to B, but you gotta hit the secondary roads to see America (warts and all).

Healey

Exactly.

[rex desilets]

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And you should avoid I 70 through Illinois, along with I 80 through Illinois, Iowa, or Nebraska. You could put the car on cruise and jump in the back seat for a nap.

Did that I80 drive once upon a time. Man, did I get sick of seeing corn.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

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And you should avoid I 70 through Illinois, along with I 80 through Illinois, Iowa, or Nebraska. You could put the car on cruise and jump in the back seat for a nap.

Did that I80 drive once upon a time. Man, did I get sick of seeing corn.

If they would only plant something else..............that Monsanto and/or ADM are not in control of.......

[Mitch]

Maybe all interstates should be avoided?

Many times, that certainly seems the less tedious.

Murph

I'd have to say "that all depends on where you are". Once, comin' down from Bangor, Me., I was runnin' really short on cash to run the Maine Turnpike, (plus the fact that I was way over hours and couldn't make the toll receipt time match my log book), I decided to run Route 1 down the coast from Augusta to the state line. I had a full load of lumber on the trailer goin' to Ohio, and I'm here to tell ya I worked my azz off for that 100+ miles. Not big hills, but up, down, and through every little coastal town with all the stop lights. Made me think it would have been better to take the pike and eat the toll. And crossin' Ohio, I'd rather run the pike than be hammerin' out Rte 224 or Rte 18 to get to Toledo. But, the skinny little two lanes are much more scenic.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

You proved the point nicely, Mitch, that it depends on the purpose of the journey whether to take local, secondary, or interstate roadways, huh.

[robert.]

I run rt 30 and 22 now to go across PA. I can no longer afford the Penna. tpk. It's $60.00+ from philly to the exit for squirrel wood tunnel. I don't know what exit number that is.

[rex desilets]

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And you should avoid I 70 through Illinois, along with I 80 through Illinois, Iowa, or Nebraska. You could put the car on cruise and jump in the back seat for a nap.

Did that I80 drive once upon a time. Man, did I get sick of seeing corn.

If they would only plant something else..............that Monsanto and/or ADM are not in control of.......

Too late.These worthies own the various state and national legislatures and you got to burn alcohol in your gas tank..for worse mileage.

[up148]

Saw a special on TV a few years ago where Monsanto was going after farmers who didn't use their seed, who were trying to keep their crop non-GMO. The bank of attorneys at Monsanto claimed that due to pollination, these stand-alone farmers crops were actually the new and improved Monsanto crop and Monsanto wants them to cease and desist. Corporations, financial institutes and wall street will be the downfall (already are) of the US more than anything else I can think of. Lobbyist are even lower than politicians in office. They take their knowledge and expertise and use it to screw the people to line their pockets. We are so screwed.

BH