Northern weather

[E7]

A sultry 19 degrees here in Southern Central PA Y'all! Snow to arrive on Saturday in preparation for the drunks on Sunday night! Oh Goody!

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Snow on the roof makes me nervous...

[Tom Dempsey]

I'd be far more nervous about your position on the roof, is that 7 in 12?!?!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Snow on the roof makes me nervous...

Umm.........getting up on the roof is what makes me nervous.

Anywho, that's not looking like a lot of snow to justify getting up there to do that -- if you really have concerns based in real roof problem, get a snow rake, and then in between seasons get heaters installed and make sure that the 1st 4' up is really sealed under the shingles.

[E7]

Agreed. Not nearly enough snow there in that pic to worry about, and that pitch, which does look to be about 7/12 should shed any amount that would be problematic. The only time I would be concerned is if you had a couple feet of it up there and then it rained and turned into ice.

The problem with snow rakes is that the high snow on the ground impedes walking around below when raking the snow down. Am thinking maybe a pair of snow shoes would be a good accessory. Hoping not to have to rake.

[Mitch]

It was 1 degree here this AM when I left for work. Goin' below Zero tonight.

[robert.]

I think i would do it from the comfort of that 2nd story window.

[rogruth]

Murph.
What the heck are you doing on a roof. That is NOT a question.
I can't see for sure that that is you but if it is you do know better.
Did your wife know you were doing that or did you sneak up
there when she was away?

[webenda]

This is insane.

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I see no safety line. Extension ladders are designed to be used at 75° angle from horizontal. It will not support its rated load at 45°. The ladder should be braced or tied off near the base. If there is no structure to tie off to, it should be staked to the ground (especially on a snowy surface.)

I would order that guy down off the roof and explain to him that he cannot work for me without proper safety gear. I am responsible for the safety of my guests.

Of course, if that is you, then I am compelled to warn you concerning roof safety. You can tell from our responses that we are all concerned about you Murph.

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[robert.]

Don't worry his golf spikes are keeping him from sliding off.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Tom, Rufus, E7, Robert, Roger, & Wayne, Thank You, all, for your concern and advice. It is an honor to receive your outreach.

The person on my roof is our dear friend and neighbor, Paul. (He is 35.)The scene took place early during a snowfall. I had wrestled the ladder from its mooring in the garage and angled it as best I could against the gutter. (Thank you for that angle info, Wayne. I had a feeling its angle was less than optimum, since it bobbed and hopped around while I climbed it.) Upon climbing up to the roof's edge, I found I was too scared to step from the ladder over the edge and onto the roof, so I just reached up with a garden hoe and scraped a bit of the snow off, as far as I could reach; however, the snow farther up was not moving.

At that moment, Paul raced over from his home across the street and insisted I get down and let him do it for me. I obeyed, quickly.

The reason for that snow removal from the roof was a previous deep snow fall, which upon ice-damming and the subsequent melting, seeped a good bit of water into the 2-story high foyer. We were able to discern that the water was originating from that area around that sharpest angle where those roofs intersect. I started the project because I did not want to have that leaking occur again.

Since that event seen in the photo, we did have new shingles put on the roof in that area, and did have the roof under them super-sealed all the way up to that angle, approx. 10 - 12' from the covered gutter. Also, Paul did install heaters, which can be easily activated when the snow begins to accumulate.

I haven't really had a chance, yet, to test the whole system this season, so snowy roofs worry me, still, but my roof-climbing days are over. I don't think I could even get the ladder out by myself, and besides, you guys would never permit it. Your collective viewpoints and information have taken care of that notion permanently.

Thank you, all, very much for your very kind concern.
Murph

P.S. Robert, Regarding that window, a feature in what we call our "stair tower," I had tried, at one time, to reach out it to scrape snow from the roof below it, but a ladder inside did not avail me of much of a reach outward and downward. Here is a view of that feature from the inside. I had wished it could have worked for me, but it was impossible, at least, for my capabilities. Plus, I am very frightened of heights, even that provided by a modest A-frame indoor ladder's height.)

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Since that event seen in the photo, we did have new shingles put on the roof in that area, and did have the roof under them super-sealed all the way up to that angle, approx. 10 - 12' from the covered gutter. Also, Paul did install heaters, which can be easily activated when the snow begins to accumulate.

You may have missed qualifying for Sigma 6P status -- Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

However, you have properly responded to the situation. Stay off ladders and your roof!

I am not fond of ladders and getting on a roof, but I will get up on the 1st floor roof here and at my place in PA. Steel roof in PA that is only a few years old -- slippery stuff.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Even I wouldn't stand on a steel roof! Now, you have me worried - about you and any possible shenanigans you might get yourself into. (!)

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Even I wouldn't stand on a steel roof! Now, you have me worried - about you and any possible shenanigans you might get yourself into. (!)

I put the original roof on working with my grandfather and tended it for many years after my father built on to the existing structure. New roof a few years ago. I, with my son's help, installed the steel roof on the tractor shed. Before that, he and his younger sister helped to put on the shingle roof over the wood shed. I think it's important that they both have some understanding of the how a roof gets done vs. some thief robbing them someday.

We had a new roof put on the house here in VA and we had to go out and check on them regularly since the concept of a straight line seemed to have eluded them at some point in their lives. The ability to read the contract also seemed marginal. When they were finally done, their own company inspector brought them back for 2 days of correction work. They were never able to fulfill their contract 100% and ended up refunding money to me. This was one of the highest rated roofing companies in the area that I had used in the past. You cannot afford to be ignorant and just trust.

I also have to use a ladder to go down into the cistern at the place in PA to drain the plumbing,

[rogruth]

Murph,

So the photo of the guy on the roof is not you and not even from this winter?
Bad Murph, causing worry like that.