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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby webenda » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:39 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Are you saying I have over estimated the size of and the possible effect of the volcano brewing under Yellowstone ? I hope I am wrong. Once it blows, how much of the southwest and The Great Plains states do you imagine would be left and able to grow crops? Think, at a minimum: debris cloud. What diameter do you imagine its super-caldera would eventually be?

TWO-PART ANSWER: Part 1

Many Americans grew concerned that a supereruption was looming after the New York Times detailed a project from a research team at Arizona State University. The team researched the events leading up to the last large eruption at Yellowstone. They found changes in the supervolcano’s system known to help trigger supereruptions, like magma flow, can develop faster than previously thought, according to the Times. “It’s shocking how little time is required to take a volcanic system from being quiet and sitting there to the edge of an eruption,” Hannah Shamloo, an ASU graduate student who was part of the research team, told the newspaper.

Many people mistakenly took that to mean Yellowstone’s supervolcano was overdue for a massive eruption. Christy Till, who was also part of the research team, later tweeted that the research team at no point suggested Yellowstone’s supervolcano was expected to erupt. “All signs of activity at Yellowstone are normal,” she wrote. “There are NO signs of eruption as some media outlets reporting.”

Reference: http://time.com/4982184/supervolcano-yellowstone-erupt/
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby webenda » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:41 am

TWO-PART ANSWER: Part 2

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The caldera under Yellowstone has not always been in that location. It started on the Oregan/Nevada border 16.1 million years ago.

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Yellowstone's caldera first moved through Idaho, creating super-eruption after super-eruption (the color circles in map) as it went.

When It got to Yellowstone it exploded three times (two of the explosions fit the catagory of super-eruption) and then it stopped.

Is the Yellowstone caldra still active?
Yes. The park’s many hydrothermal features attest to the heat still beneath this area. Earthquakes--1,000 to 3,000 per year--also reveal activity below ground.

Will the Yellowstone volcano erupt soon?
Current geologic activity at Yellowstone has remained relatively constant since scientists first started monitoring more than 30 years ago. Another caldera-forming eruption is theoretically possible, but it is very unlikely in the next thousand or even 10,000 years. Scientists have also found no indication of an imminent smaller eruption of lava.

How big was Yellowstone's last super-eruption?
This last eruption produced up to 600 cubic miles of ash and left a caldra rim measuring 30 x 45 miles in diameter. The rim can best be seen from the Washburn Hot Springs overlook, south of Dunraven Pass.

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_River_Plain
http://geology.isu.edu/Digital_Geology_ ... /mod11.htm
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Roy » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:48 am

With a stroke of his pen, the POTUS has recognized reality by declaring Jerusalem to be the capitol of Israel, and committing to move the U.S. embassy there. I think that outranks the prospect of super volcano eruption insurance.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby webenda » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:58 am

Roy wrote:With a stroke of his pen, the POTUS has recognized reality by declaring Jerusalem to be the capitol of Israel, and committing to move the U.S. embassy there. I think that outranks the prospect of super volcano eruption insurance.


Sorry Murph, answers to your other questions have been tabled while we talk about Jerusalem, the capital of Israel.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby E7 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:12 am

Roy wrote:With a stroke of his pen, the POTUS has recognized reality by declaring Jerusalem to be the capitol of Israel, and committing to move the U.S. embassy there. I think that outranks the prospect of super volcano eruption insurance.


NOT a new idea by any stretch of the imagination:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... tually-go/

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Roy » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:48 am

Oops, I committed a catachresis. I said "capitol", where I should have said "capital". Me so shit for brains. So, please disregard my comment about the President's timing on Jerusalem.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby webenda » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:03 am

Roy wrote:Oops, I committed a catachresis. I said "capitol", where I should have said "capital". Me so shit for brains. So, please disregard my comment about the President's timing on Jerusalem.

:lol: Come on Roy, a little typo amongst friends... even English teachers do typos. :wink:
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Mitch » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:10 am

I don't wanna talk about Jerusalem. We're not done talkin' about Puerto Rico yet. In Houston, the National Guard was activated to assist in gettin' things up and runnin' again. Why wasn't the military activated to get into Puerto Rico? FEMA can't get it done. We have military folks who are very good at things like this just sittin' on bases with no missions. U.S.Navy SeaBees, Air Force Red Horse battalions, Army Engineers. I know the SeaBees can build or repair roads, sewer systems, get fresh water up and running, place poles and string electric lines, and it would have taken a lot less time. The military could have mobilized and deployed much faster than any government agency who uses independent contractors to get things done. (Can you say MONEY)? The military has the equipment just sittin' in warehouses, probably most of it never used. They could get those massive diesel generators in there and they could be placed in various places on the island; they don't have to have a central generating station. And I think a lot of the military personnel would welcome the opportunity use the skills they've honed for years. But maybe that would never work. The military people are already bein' paid, so the civilian contractors, (friends of government, ie: Congressmen, Senators, and other D.C. big wigs) wouldn't have the opportunity to bilk the American Taxpayer. :roll:
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:29 am

webenda wrote:
Roy wrote:Oops, I committed a catachresis. I said "capitol", where I should have said "capital". Me so shit for brains. So, please disregard my comment about the President's timing on Jerusalem.

:lol: Come on Roy, a little typo amongst friends... even English teachers do typos. :wink:

Yup. And an Ohhhyeeaaaah. And much worse. Dig this:
At the present moment, I am at my laptop reading back to the start of my little caldera kerfuffle.

When I first read your posting, Wayne, which included the photo of the bricks in the yard of that house, I could read no captions. I only was able to discern the word "Earthquake...(...and something-or-other...)." Why? I was using my iPhone, which I often use to read and write on this forum.

So?

Well, ah, err, I never got the message - literally - about the fracking. Never read anything further under the photo beyond the word "earthquake." And Rufus's brief fracking statement, complete with rolling-eyes, had caused me to figure it was a good suggestion but that he was using the rolling-eyes to be ironic and/or skeptical about such a notion.

I was simply making a suggestion, more with the intention of asking a question (I appreciate that you understood that, Wayne,) concerning whether the Yellowstone underground activity were enough to shake Oklahoma. I am aware of the well-accepted theory describing 100,000 year episodes, so I was not suggesting an extinction-level event should be expected, and insured against, by, oh say, tomorrow afternoon; instead, I was just wondering if Yellowstone were enough to shake Oklahoma. See? :|

Getting old isn't cute. Apparently. and it's time for (actually, well overdue; I've received two reminders from the doctor's office) my next prescribed eye exam (I had cancelled it several months ago, just not being in the mood for that equipment being jammed up against my eyeballs.)

Let me close with this: Rock-on, Brothers! :roll: (Yes, that was eye-rolling worthy for sure!). :mrgreen:

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:07 am

Mitch wrote:....talkin' about Puerto Rico[/b]... In Houston, the National Guard was activated to assist in gettin' things up and runnin' again. Why wasn't the military activated to get into Puerto Rico? FEMA can't get it done. We have military folks who are very good at things like this just sittin' on bases with no missions. U.S.Navy SeaBees, Air Force Red Horse battalions, Army Engineers. I know the SeaBees can build or repair roads, sewer systems, get fresh water up and running, place poles and string electric lines, and it would have taken a lot less time. The military could have mobilized and deployed much faster than any government agency who uses independent contractors to get things done....The military has the equipment just sittin' in warehouses, probably most of it never used. They could get those massive diesel generators in there and they could be placed in various places on the island; they don't have to have a central generating station. And I think a lot of the military personnel would welcome the opportunity use the skills they've honed for years. But maybe that would never work. The military people are already bein' paid, so the civilian contractors, (friends of government, ie: Congressmen, Senators, and other D.C. big wigs) wouldn't have the opportunity to bilk the American Taxpayer. :roll:

I have two reactions/suggestions regarding your statement, Mitch. And there is a reason I put that last portion or your comment in blue.

1. Maybe, it's time you run for Congress. I am dead-serious (not being smartassed at all.) I suggest that because what you said here seems to me to be some good, sound thinking, something which had not occurred to me at all, my not being too familiar with the military and its powers.
2. Send that suggestion to your Congressperson, or at the very least, send your opinion to ABC or NBC.

The part I highlighted in blue, you might not want to include in any outreach to the TV stations; at least, not this time. Save that part for another time. :wink:

Murph :D
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby robert. » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:10 am

Roy wrote:With a stroke of his pen, the POTUS has recognized reality by declaring Jerusalem to be the capitol of Israel, and committing to move the U.S. embassy there. I think that outranks the prospect of super volcano eruption insurance.

So have the last 3 presidents. Clinton, Bush and Obama. Now trump can join them.This just may well be a first for the last 25 years. Both sides are in agreement. Lets hope this earth shattering news does not set off a volcano.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:47 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:And Rufus's brief fracking statement, complete with rolling-eyes, had caused me to figure it was a good suggestion but that he was using the rolling-eyes to be ironic and/or skeptical about such a notion.


The rolling eyes were there for those that still believe that de' Nile is just a river in Egypt.

Getting old isn't cute. Apparently. and it's time for (actually, well overdue; I've received two reminders from the doctor's office) my next prescribed eye exam (I had cancelled it several months ago, just not being in the mood for that equipment being jammed up against my eyeballs.)


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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:19 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:And Rufus's brief fracking statement, complete with rolling-eyes, had caused me to figure it was a good suggestion but that he was using the rolling-eyes to be ironic and/or skeptical about such a notion.


The rolling eyes were there for those that still believe that de' Nile is just a river in Egypt...

Too deep for me. :mrgreen:

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:21 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:...

Getting old isn't cute. Apparently. and it's time for (actually, well overdue; I've received two reminders from the doctor's office) my next prescribed eye exam (I had cancelled it several months ago, just not being in the mood for that equipment being jammed up against my eyeballs.)


Do not put this off!

I'll call them today.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:36 am

[quote="Rufus T. Firefly"]

The rolling eyes were there for those that still believe that de' Nile is just a river in Egypt.

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The NILE is the longest river in AFRICA.

And many people think that AFRICA is a country...... :roll:


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