Seen in Print

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Yes, but will their spines be able to take the strain; plus, how would their pelvises be able to spread wider to accommodate carrying an ever-expanding load?

(Talk about a variety of topics on a train forum!!)

[rogruth]

They'll just cut it out as they did several other things.
Yes, that is what I really like about MTJ.
And some don't like at all.
To each his own. I guess that applies to the first sentence also.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I hear that the kids are delicious after being par boiled for a few hours.............

[MurphOnMillerAve]

demented twaddle

[Rufus T. Firefly]

demented twaddle

No, no, no.......you need to go down to your library, blow off the dust from the multitude of volumes, and pull out some of Jonathan Swift's works.....like the classic, "A Modest Proposal".

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Wait for me. I'll jet right over there.

[webenda]

Student creativity is an inexhaustible energy resource.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Maybe if they'd put that same creativity and effort into actually studying they'd do just fine?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Maybe if they'd put that same creativity and effort into actually studying they'd do just fine?

Yes, I've often wondered about the phenomenon of their transcribing info onto crib-sheets or body parts - doesn't that action constitute a detailed review of the information at-hand , thus, negating the need to sneak-copy and use it, having done a review that helps them learn it?

Then, there has always been, in my estimation, the consideration that they are wasting their own money since, after all, the goal is to have learned so that one can use the knowledge to be successful at a future occupation or profession or career, rather than have the info recorded onto surfaces that are washed away or discarded? Makes no sense at all, to me. Copying for the sake of nothing long-lasting and useful seems the ultimate counter-productive effort , to me. Children in the wrong classroom.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Maybe if they'd put that same creativity and effort into actually studying they'd do just fine?

Yes, I've often wondered about the phenomenon of their transcribing info onto crib-sheets or body parts - doesn't that action constitute a detailed review of the information at-hand , thus, negating the need to sneak-copy and use it, having done a review that helps them learn it?

It might were it performed several times, but that would be rote memorization and no actual application of the knowledge might be gained. I shared numerous chemistry classes with kids that tried to memorize everything. 90% failed to graduate with a degree in chemistry (or biology in some cases).

Then, there has always been, in my estimation, the consideration that they are wasting their own money since, after all, the goal is to have learned so that one can use the knowledge to be successful at a future occupation or profession or career, rather than have the info recorded onto surfaces that are washed away or discarded? Makes no sense at all, to me. Copying for the sake of nothing long-lasting and useful seems the ultimate counter-productive effort , to me. Children in the wrong classroom.

Unfortunately, that paying seems to also grant them the belief that they are entitled to passing grades - they fail to comprehend that the payment of tuition merely grants them access. The rest is on them. Children that should not be in college at all.

[rogruth]

Maybe they think that cheating is the way to get ahead today.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Maybe they think that cheating is the way to get ahead today.

That seems to be a prevalent behavior pattern over the past couple of decades.......

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Maybe they think that cheating is the way to get ahead today.

That seems to be a prevalent behavior pattern over the past couple of decades.......

OK, so here's an odd college story, and yes, it's with Murph as the main "character>" I loved my literature classes (especially considering my plan to teach English in the future) and didn't even mind the time - well, not too much - the time I went against my counselor's advice and took two literature courses - English Lit. and American Lit. - during the same semester. That meant reading a complete novel per week, for each class. When I made the mistake of (quietly) saying to the Eng. Lit. professor that I had made such a mistake, he said, referring to the Am. Lit. class, "Then, fail his class, but you must read the novels for this class, without exception."

Ok. So. When it was required that I read Don Quixote, after only a few chapters of that heap (as I thought of it), I refused to read another word of it but guaranteed the professor I would not only get all "A's" for all the quizzes and tests on the novel, but that I would lead the class in discussions, much to the satisfaction of my professor. And that is how it turned out. All A's and plenty of discussion-leading. Go figger. (To me, the story was so dipsh*t predictable and dull, I knew how it would progress and end. I was correct.)

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Maybe they think that cheating is the way to get ahead today.

That seems to be a prevalent behavior pattern over the past couple of decades.......

OK, so here's an odd college story, and yes, it's with Murph as the main "character>" I loved my literature classes (especially considering my plan to teach English in the future) and didn't even mind the time - well, not too much - the time I went against my counselor's advice and took two literature courses - English Li.t and American Lit. - during the same semester. That meant reading a complete novel per week, for each class. When I made the mistake of (quietly) saying to the Eng. Lit. professor that I had mad e such a mistake, he said, referring to the Am. Lit. class, "Then, fail his class, but you must read the novels for this class, without exception."

Ok.

What did the other Professor say?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

He told me I could do both and to enjoy it. He was right. I enjoyed the challenge (which kept me better disciplined and far away from fraternity beer fests for the entire semester, habits I wisely continued.) I got my "A's" in each course. For real.

The entire experience of living on-campus, which was in idyllic contrast to my steel-mill-focused hometown in the Pittsburgh area, immersed me in a world dedicated to academics, all of which inebriated me with the joy of learning, the effects of which inspire my life to this day.

To have one day found myself here, serving and leading these students, was a joy and privilege for which I had found myself well equipped, and fortunately so. The discipline and the avoidance of beer-swills at the frat house paid off properly.