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Re: Car Thread

Postby Tom Dempsey » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:40 pm

As long as you observe all the applicable traffic laws, of course they are.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:52 pm

Tom Dempsey wrote:As long as you observe all the applicable traffic laws, of course they are.


What I was referring to is do they have to be licensed for the street or are they considered like a bike you pedal.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby rogruth » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:07 pm

In the late 1940s and early 1950s, Whizzer and other types of motor bikes were considered bicycles if they had pedals that could be used to move them and not just for starting purposes. At least in Ohio. I don't know about today and it probably varies by state.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby webenda » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:21 am

HONDO74 wrote:
webenda wrote:Bicycle Fun
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Are these bikes street legal. ??


No. (Sorry Tom.) They would have to have added equipment to meet local motor vehicle laws and be registered as motor vehicles to be legal. The ones shown in the videos are not street legal.

While Federal law governs consumer product regulations for "low speed electric bicycles", as with motor vehicles and bicycles, regulation of how these products are used on public streets is subject to state vehicle codes. There is significant variation from state to state (and country to country.)
Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws
https://electricbikereview.com/guides/ebike-laws-usa/
http://peopleforbikes.org/blog/new-e-bi ... alifornia/

rogruth wrote:Wayne,
When are you getting your electric bike? Or do you have it already?

I do not have one and do not plan on getting one. Such a bike would defeat my purpose in riding a bicycle, exercise.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:17 pm

webenda wrote:...
rogruth wrote:Wayne,
When are you getting your electric bike? Or do you have it already?

I do not have one and do not plan on getting one. Such a bike would defeat my purpose....

Yeah, but I'd pay money to see you bopping around on one. :D

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Re: Car Thread

Postby Tom Dempsey » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:13 pm

webenda wrote:No. (Sorry Tom.) They would have to have added equipment to meet local motor vehicle laws and be registered as motor vehicles to be legal. The ones shown in the videos are not street legal.


So, you agree with my assessment, anything is street legal as long as you comply with all legal requirements.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby webenda » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:51 am

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I agree with your assessment as you reworded it. High power bicycles are considered motorcycles and must be equipped with at least 1 and no more than 3 headlights, 1 tail light, 1 brake light, a registration plate light, turn signal lights, rear reflectors, a horn, and side view mirrors. The electric bicyles Hondo was asking about were not street legal.

Bicycles with low power electric assist are treated by law the same as bicycles in most locations of the world.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:01 am

webenda wrote:...........regulation of how these products are used on public streets is subject to state vehicle codes. There is significant variation from state to state...........


This is well worth checking the precise wording in whatever state reside or plan to ride such vehicles, and you should have a copy of the relevant code on your person when riding. Even the police may not know what the law states.

A friend years ago had one of those old Whizzer bikes and was pulled over by the local police repeatedly and ticketed. After he started carrying a copy of the relevant code to show the police when pulled over, he was allowed to proceed.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby robert. » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:38 am

This site is built by a company selling bikes. Their list of PA. motorized bike laws Will keep you out of trouble if you follow them.
http://www.motorizedbicyclehq.com/motor ... nsylvania/
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Re: Car Thread

Postby v8vega » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:05 am

You can buy a new Whizzer, a company is reproducing them.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby healey36 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:22 am

Earl Cooper and his Stutz at Indy, 1915:

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Looking at old photos such as this help me understand Hemingway's contention that automobile racing and bull fighting were the two greatest sports.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:34 pm

healey36 wrote:Earl Cooper and his Stutz at Indy, 1915:


Who's his co-pilot? Looks to be very cozy in there.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby rex desilets » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:55 pm

Perhaps that led to the invention of deodorant :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:15 pm

rex desilets wrote:Perhaps that led to the invention of deodorant :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


We can but only hope!
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Re: Car Thread

Postby rogruth » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:16 pm

rex desilets wrote:Perhaps that led to the invention of deodorant :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

That was the original purpose of perfume, I think.
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