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[Rufus T. Firefly]

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I'd rather just shoot him into space........

Excellent point. Talk about his getting a healthy perspective!

Maybe he can dive back down and gain more perspective....

[robert.]

This is a letter sent from my electric company. Telling me " not to worry the know how to prune trees to promote growth.

[robert.]

Trained to promote tree growth

[robert.]

More like promote the growth of grass

[robert.]

I'll let you know how the grass grows nectar year

[Rufus T. Firefly]

They could have at least left you the firewood,

[webenda]

How about, "How refreshing it must be to be mercifully free from the ravages of intelligence"?

Eric is a genius. He explains that Ober's Paradox is no paradox at all but an error thinking caused by the incorrect model of a heliocentric universe. Can any of you solve Ober's Paradox with such a short statement?

No, he is not. He has completely misunderstood the term "sea level," which refers to the place(s) where the sea meets the land, at all places on Earth, which is not a factor in explaining the curvature of the Earth. He requires a lesson in altitude. Then, teaching him about latitude and longitude would not hurt him either. Plus, somebody go buy him a protractor. Dare I also suggest he needs to learn about tides and the Moon , as well?

Sea Level has nothing at all to do with Ober's Paradox.

The flat disk of the Moon does affect sea level, so what?

Have you read Isaiah 40:22?

22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;
--King James Version

22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers;
--New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

Those who think the Earth is flat with four corners are wrong, it is a flat circle. Eric correctly shows it as a flat circle in his, "200 Proofs the Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball."

Eric knows all about latitude and longitude and explains why so many people using latitude and longitude maps that assume Earth is a ball get lost.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Well, that straightened it all out.

[John Webster]

So it's Antarctica that keeps the oceans from running off the edge?

Do the Chinese depict the flat earth with the center at the south pole?

Is there a place in Antarctica where you can look over the edge? How many turtles can you see from there?

[webenda]

So it's Antarctica that keeps the oceans from running off the edge?

Obviously!

Antarctica has been circumnavigated. Captain Cook and James Clark Ross both did it. It took them 3 to 4 years and they logged 50 to 60 thousand miles doing it. The British ship Challenger also circumnavigated Antarctica and logged 69,000 miles. It is a long way around the parameter of Earth's disk.

Do the Chinese depict the flat earth with the center at the south pole?

No, ancient Chinese maps depict the Celestial Empire (an old name for China) in the center of the map.

Is there a place in Antarctica where you can look over the edge? How many turtles can you see from there?

I don't know. If someone did look over the edge, there would be no turtles. The Earth's disc is suspended on nothing.

Job 26:7 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
7 He stretches out Zaphon over the void, and hangs the earth upon nothing.

Job 26:7 King James Version
7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.........

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Eric is a genius. He explains that Ober's Paradox is no paradox at all but an error thinking caused by the incorrect model of a heliocentric universe. Can any of you solve Ober's Paradox with such a short statement?

No, he is not. He has completely misunderstood the term "sea level," which refers to the place(s) where the sea meets the land, at all places on Earth, which is not a factor in explaining the curvature of the Earth. He requires a lesson in altitude. Then, teaching him about latitude and longitude would not hurt him either. Plus, somebody go buy him a protractor. Dare I also suggest he needs to learn about tides and the Moon , as well?

You wrote:
Sea Level has nothing at all to do with Ober's Paradox.

...and:
The flat disk of the Moon does affect sea level, so what?...

Go ask him that; he's the one who mentioned the concept of sea level. I just clarified it for you (both?)

And talk about a "so what?" !!Who cares about Ober's Paradox? You and ....?

[webenda]

And talk about a "so what?" !!Who cares about Ober's Paradox? You and ....?

Anyone interested in, "And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light." --Genisis 1:3

[Rufus T. Firefly]

And talk about a "so what?" !!Who cares about Ober's Paradox? You and ....?

Anyone interested in, "And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light." --Genisis 1:3

Pretty sure that's Genesis.......and if you want to indulge in literal acceptance of the Bible try taking it all as a whole vs. cherry picking. It'll be far more entertaining,

[MurphOnMillerAve]

... The Earth's disc is suspended on nothing.

Job 26:7 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
7 He stretches out Zaphon over the void, and hangs the earth upon nothing.

Job 26:7 King James Version
7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

That's all very poetic. However, one may want to update oneself in this regard. Only 4 o/o of the Universe is composed of what we can see, such as planets, stars, and galaxies. The rest of it is hardly nothing, and surely not a void, and not empty.

The other 96 o/o is composed of a whole lot of something; certainly not nothing. Check out the latest findings on "Dark Energy" and "Dark Matter." Fascinating stuff. I guess it depends on what one means by "thing." Just because we see a whole lot of blackness does not mean it is empty. Our vision and understanding is limited. For now.

We have discovered 3,559 Exo-planets orbiting suns, in our Milkyway. Are they flat? Round? What's keeping them in place? How have we figured out they are there? If the writers of Scripture did not know those planets were there and didn't mention them, does that mean they were wrong? Nope. Just limited, through no "fault" of their own, surely. They did their best to help.

Our latest discoveries offer a bit of a perspective beyond Scripture, but it does not negate Scripture, nor slap it in the face. Rather, IMHO, it affirms it further - the wonder of it all. We are simply (well,, not exactly simply) discovering more of the details. Just because, at one time in our history, we could not see microbes or molecules, for example, did not mean they were not there. So, we did our best to explain what we were aware of, even if the pondering was just rudimentary. Apparently, we keep learning and keep wondering, about the wonder of it all.

P.S. I have found Neil de Grasse Tyson, astrophysicist and director of the Hayden Planetarium in NYC, to be an interesting, inspiring, easily understood, and informative voice for this branch of science. Watching and hearing him speak is a refreshing wonder in itself. He has a website.