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Re: Car Thread

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:55 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Pretty sure that Volvo announced it was going to go 100% electric but I've forgotten what the date was that was announced.



Volvo's Electric Future
The automaker says starting in 2019 it will make only electric or hybrid cars.
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archiv ... re/532659/

Volvo, the Chinese-owned Swedish automaker, announced Tuesday that starting in 2019 it will only make fully electric or hybrid cars.

“This announcement marks the end of the solely combustion engine-powered car,” Håkan Samuelsson, Volvo’s president and chief executive, said in a statement.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:56 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Pretty sure that Volvo announced it was going to go 100% electric but I've forgotten what the date was that was announced.



Volvo's Electric Future
The automaker says starting in 2019 it will make only electric or hybrid cars.
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archiv ... re/532659/

Volvo, the Chinese-owned Swedish automaker, announced Tuesday that starting in 2019 it will only make fully electric or hybrid cars.

“This announcement marks the end of the solely combustion engine-powered car,” Håkan Samuelsson, Volvo’s president and chief executive, said in a statement.


Yes, it surprised me that this was going to happen so soon - 2019.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:05 pm

Shocking. (Pun intended. :roll: )

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Re: Car Thread

Postby robert. » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:15 pm

To many cars uggh
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Re: Car Thread

Postby healey36 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:24 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
healey36 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Compared to today's cars, that 450SE was an armor plated tank...


Same guys that built this:

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Except I'm pretty sure that when I was driving the SE with the VR tires on it I could get around on the beltway just a shade faster....

Yeah, but this thing will give you a hell of a fight for a parking spot...

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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:28 pm

healey36 wrote:Yeah, but this thing will give you a hell of a fight for a parking spot...


True, but it's hell on those multi-level parking garages, :lol:
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Re: Car Thread

Postby up148 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:51 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Pretty sure that Volvo announced it was going to go 100% electric but I've forgotten what the date was that was announced.



Volvo's Electric Future
The automaker says starting in 2019 it will make only electric or hybrid cars.
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archiv ... re/532659/

Volvo, the Chinese-owned Swedish automaker, announced Tuesday that starting in 2019 it will only make fully electric or hybrid cars.

“This announcement marks the end of the solely combustion engine-powered car,” Håkan Samuelsson, Volvo’s president and chief executive, said in a statement.


Yes, it surprised me that this was going to happen so soon - 2019.


Me too! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: So what's going to happen to all the internal combustion cars? I expect collectables, as we have been discussing here, will still retain value and always have a place to drive and a reason to own? I won't be around to see this decline, but interesting to think about.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby rex desilets » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:12 pm

healey36 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
healey36 wrote:
Same guys that built this:

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Except I'm pretty sure that when I was driving the SE with the VR tires on it I could get around on the beltway just a shade faster....

Yeah, but this thing will give you a hell of a fight for a parking spot...
The Panther tank was a masterpiece of over-engineered German design, with a propensity to break down, non-repairably, in the field. Apparently, by the time MBZ got around to the 450 SE reliability had been improved- although MBZ cars are hellishly expensive to maintain (recent oil-and-filter change on my C250 went for $400+).
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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:33 pm

rex desilets wrote:........although MBZ cars are hellishly expensive to maintain (recent oil-and-filter change on my C250 went for $400+).


1st thing you do is find the local MBZ expert working out his own garage and run there never looking back vs. going to the dealer.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:26 pm

Massive recall of Ram trucks is afoot, due to defective water-pumps.
(I believe I got that right, hearing it just as I walked thru a room, today.)

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Re: Car Thread

Postby up148 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:53 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rex desilets wrote:........although MBZ cars are hellishly expensive to maintain (recent oil-and-filter change on my C250 went for $400+).


1st thing you do is find the local MBZ expert working out his own garage and run there never looking back vs. going to the dealer.


+1. Only way to deal with it once factory warranty expires and applies to many makes and models.

My experiences at dealers in the past 4-5 years has been bad and getting worse. Once the started paying mechanics "book time" instead of actual time, using computers to diagnose problems, it's been spinning out of control.

Swore off Lexus, since the only dealer in town service department got really bad. Oh yes, they remodeled and put in a gym and coffee bar for customers, so I guess that makes up for poor service.

Dumped the Lexus and went to a VW Touareg TDI (best car I've ever owned), but again the service sucks. Touareg TDI's run 33lbs tire pressure in front and 39 in rear. Mechanic rotated my tires as part of normal service, but didn't check tire pressures. :shock: Half way home the light on the panel tells me I have low tire pressure in the rear, but after the initial "oh shit" moment, it was easy to see what they did, when I see 39 in front and 33 in back.

Have a new Honda Ridgeline (best PU I've ever owned) but same crap during my 1st servicing. They checked tire condition (at least marked off the paperwork), but the tire pressures have been low by 3-5 lbs each for some time I guess, and they didn't catch it. I guess no one gets paid for checking the little things anymore. So, it has made me a better owner and I am now checking everything myself.......like I did back in my younger days.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby robert. » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:10 am

You just summarize why I drive an old piece of sh@t.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:39 am

up148 wrote: I guess no one gets paid for checking the little things anymore. So, it has made me a better owner and I am now checking everything myself.......like I did back in my younger days.


They fully expect all of those sensors and electronics to do that for them and/or you.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby up148 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:48 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
up148 wrote: I guess no one gets paid for checking the little things anymore. So, it has made me a better owner and I am now checking everything myself.......like I did back in my younger days.


They fully expect all of those sensors and electronics to do that for them and/or you.


That is why you seek out the independent specialized mechanic who does it because he is knowledgeable and good at what he does, enjoys what he is doing and in most cases doesn't need a computer to diagnose your problem. :D :D :D :D

I think many of the new generation dealer mechanics are going through the paces without really understanding what they are doing or why. They have decent mechanical skillsets or good eye to hand coordination, so removing and installing parts is easy for them......but those trying to beat the "book time" can make mistakes more easily.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby robert. » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:25 am

Don't forget those guys are pushed by a greedy service manager.plus they are not paid anything near the hourly rate a dealer charges. Also many are forced to do recall work for free or a cut rate.call a plumber and see what he charges to replace a washer in your faucet. A 50 cent washer will cost you $150-200+
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