A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Isn't there some controversy about whether bicyclists are supposed to ride facing traffic or in the same direction as traffic is flowing? Perhaps, some states differ from others in this regard, as might various municipalities?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Isn't there some controversy about whether bicyclists are supposed to ride facing traffic or in the same direction as traffic is flowing? Perhaps, some states differ from others in this regard, as might various municipalities?

That would wholly depend on the state.

I guess that at one time that they were treated pedestrians, but that time has come and gone in most places - they want to use the road and have bike lanes that they have to use, they get regulated.

In all states that I know of, they fall under the motor vehicle code and are to be treated as such. I'm waiting for VA and DC to start licensing them - there's money to be made!

[rogruth]

The old way was WALK on the left facing traffic so you could get out of the way.
In the dark ages of my youth bicycles were supposed to have rear view mirrors
so they could get out of the way of faster traffic that was following. Regular
traffic laws applied to bikes. In the downtown area of my hometown you
were not supposed to leave your bike on the sidewalk unless there was a
bike stand. You could park it in a parking space and feed the meter.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The old way was WALK on the left facing traffic so you could get out of the way.
In the dark ages of my youth bicycles were supposed to have rear view mirrors
so they could get out of the way of faster traffic that was following. Regular
traffic laws applied to bikes. In the downtown area of my hometown you
were not supposed to leave your bike on the sidewalk unless there was a
bike stand. You could park it in a parking space and feed the meter.

Yup!

[up148]

The old way was WALK on the left facing traffic so you could get out of the way.
In the dark ages of my youth bicycles were supposed to have rear view mirrors
so they could get out of the way of faster traffic that was following. Regular
traffic laws applied to bikes. In the downtown area of my hometown you
were not supposed to leave your bike on the sidewalk unless there was a
bike stand. You could park it in a parking space and feed the meter.

I guess that's one advantage of growing up in a small suburban midwestern town. Common sense was pretty much the rule. You didn't ride on downtown sidewalks where customers were coming and going into the business. You stayed out of the way of motorized traffic. You could park your bike in front of a store if you were going in to do business, but never just to congregate. If you parked in a space for cars (metered or not) you would most likely come out to find your bike either dropped over the parking meter or thrown up on the sidewalk, neither of which was good for the bike. Only places with bike stands were schools and the libraries when I grew up................but I'm sure that has all changed. Don't know how we survived without helmets, leg and arm pads and lights to alert drivers of our presence.

Not meaning to drift, but.................you guys have commented on the cost of housing out east on another thread months ago and man was that point driven home yesterday. I was in the doctor's waiting room and they had HGTV running on the "always present" TV, and a show called Property Brothers was running. It's about twin brothers in their late 20's, maybe early 30's, who help other young people find homes to purchase, then the brothers renovate the home with some owner sweat equity. The brothers act as the buyers agent in the purchase as well as the renovators. I kept hoping the area would be identified, but I either missed it or was called in to my appointment before it was disclosed.

Where I'm going with this is the cost of the homes these young couples were looking at was astounding and the condition was terrible. The neighborhoods were nothing special, but I guess the close proximity to the larger city dictated the value. A 1940's, 1000 sq.ft., two story brick duplex with a tiny back yard sold for for $450K, plus needed $85K worth of renovation, for a total of $535K. Another couple was looking at a POS 1500 sq. ft. brick two story home (built in the 20's/30's ???) that was really torn up and needed $250K worth of renovation. They offered $925K, but were outbid. I could buy any of those homes in the midwest for less than $200K and maybe already renovated. These didn't strike me as yuppie neighborhoods with joggers, bike riders, parks and other amenities...just old neighborhoods

How do young couples or anyone afford these kind of prices? Absolutely blew me away.

BH

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I am familiar with Property Brothers and there is also a show about lottery winners and property.

I guess you now are beginning to understand or appreciate what costs are in and around within commuting distances to cities on either coast - San Jose is the top expensive place in the country.

The lottery winners housing show is interesting since it seems more centered in the mid-west and we watch it to see under $200K homes there that are $1 million ones here.

How do young folks survive? They put way too much of their salary into something that let's then get to work & back w/o killing them on the commute. DC area has folks commuting from PA and WV. An hour commute is considered short or at least good. The record for me to get home once (18 miles) was 4.5 hours.

150 miles from here I can buy a spectacular house twice the square footage for 2/3 of what mine would sell for very conservatively; another 20 miles and I recently looked at a historic pre-Civil War brick house that I'd get lost for about 1/3.

The closer in to crazy central, the more it costs per sq. foot

[Rufus T. Firefly]

[rogruth]

Rufus,
Is that where you live in your present form or is that just your week-end house?
Nice digs.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Rufus,
Is that where you live in your present form or is that just your week-end house?
Nice digs.

No, but that house is still there - driven by it many times.

I have very recently looked into a handful of houses in Mercersburg; can get 3 x's the house I have now were I to sell & relocate. Tax and inheritance laws in PA are nasty..........

[Rufus T. Firefly]

[rogruth]

Rufus,
When you move into "prospect", you better take your groundskeeper with you.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Rufus,
When you move into "prospect", you better take your groundskeeper with you.

Doubt that I'll be moving there - it's now the Mercersburg Inn....a B&B operation.

[rogruth]

Rufus,
When you move into "prospect", you better take your groundskeeper with you.

Doubt that I'll be moving there - it's now the Mercersburg Inn....a B&B operation.

Make 'em an offer they can't refuse.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Rufus,
When you move into "prospect", you better take your groundskeeper with you.

Doubt that I'll be moving there - it's now the Mercersburg Inn....a B&B operation.

Make 'em an offer they can't refuse.

Buying a place like that is just work that I do not need..........although I am curious as to what level of business such a place gets...

[rogruth]

Doubt that I'll be moving there - it's now the Mercersburg Inn....a B&B operation.

Make 'em an offer they can't refuse.

Buying a place like that is just work that I do not need..........although I am curious as to what level of business such a place gets...

I agree. Unless someone else is doing ALL the work I wouldn't want it.