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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby Roy » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:39 pm

J. S. Bach wrote:Speaking of weathering:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122371429706

Must've been owned by a mud wrestler. :wink:
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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby webenda » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:05 pm

Roy wrote:Your new silver car looks like it came with postwar style wheels.
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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby chuck » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:55 am

Nice car, good price. Lionel has been using the flat wheel sets for a while on the "scale" equipment. I'm not sure about the O-27 since I haven't bought any in a while. You also got the hidden uncoupler tab (no thumbtack).
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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby christopher2035 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:06 am

Nice car. Can't beat the price. Wish that was really the catalog price. The 75$ seems a bit much for a freight car. I pick up almost all of my stuff on the used market these days. The prices for new are just insane
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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby Roy » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:17 am

Glad to see the flat treaded wheels are back. Do they turn on the axle, like postwar, or are one or both fixed to the axle? Also, do the axles still have the needlepoint bearings?
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Postby chuck » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:14 pm

Do they turn on the axle, like postwar, or are one or both fixed to the axle?


Tied together, aka they turn together

Also, do the axles still have the needlepoint bearings?


I know they are very low friction, aka they will spin for quite a while when spun. I didn't try to take the truck apart but they look like the new design needle point axles.
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Postby Roy » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:38 pm

Thanks, Chuck. I wonder why they don't allow for differential on turns?
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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:06 am

chuck wrote:
Also, do the axles still have the needlepoint bearings?


I know they are very low friction, aka they will spin for quite a while when spun. I didn't try to take the truck apart but they look like the new design needle point axles.

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Postby chuck » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:06 am

Thanks Wayne. Really nice car and that was a really sweet deal.
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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby Roy » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:17 am

So, do the coupler baseplates wrap around the axles, like the old postwar ones did? That should add even more friction, since the postwar axles didn't turn.
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Postby chuck » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:54 am

I'll look at it when I get home tonight. Pretty sure the only contact point is with the Delrin pockets in the truck side castings. The trucks have working springs and I believe the stuff you are seeing in the photo is a "frame" to support the uncoupler pad on the bottom. I'm pretty sure the axles just pass tough, no contact.
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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:24 pm

No, Roy, they are much improved and hang from the frame, not touching the axles.

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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:39 pm

chuck wrote:Pretty sure the only contact point is with the Delrin pockets in the truck side castings

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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby chuck » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:13 pm

Thank you!!!!!!! Great pictures and annotation.

I have the single door NH version. I think it was $50 at a local train show. Nice car, not as big a price break but I'm happy.
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Re: eBay Buy-it-now Photo Comment

Postby jlong » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:49 pm

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