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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:56 am

Agree

Agree

Disagree.
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Metal chassis is a short circuit.
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Chaos is viewpoint of a dedicated 3 railer. Insulated wheels, one outer rail hot, wiring for turnaround loops, metal turnout crossing point is a short circuit, etc., can be very confusing. None of those proplems when both outer rails are common.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:24 am

I learn something every day , here.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:49 am

webenda wrote:Chaos is viewpoint of a dedicated 3 railer. Insulated wheels, one outer rail hot, wiring for turnaround loops, metal turnout crossing point is a short circuit, etc., can be very confusing.


Gee... I thought you'd be able to figure out that putting all of the insulated wheels on the same side might be considered "positive", :mrgreen:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:47 am

Thought of it the moment Andre mentioned red hot couplers. Extrapolated from hot couplers to real hot boxes on a model train, but I was thinking of one truck getting turned 180, thus a possible hot steel center channel on my wood and metal Athearn kit. Maybe two rail trucks can't turn 180 like some three rail trucks? Yes, getting one axle turned 180 in the truck would be interesting also, even on a plastic model, especially in lead (Pb) trucks. :roll:
Case in point, this 6465 tank car is shipped with its trucks rotated 180 degrees--won't fit in the box otherwise.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby sarge » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:21 pm

Wayne:

In two rail, usually not unless the car is a hermaphrodite design that has the centre sill removed from the area of the bolsters so it can also be sold as a three-rail product.

Regarding the wiring et al for two rail, you of all people would not be my first choice for someone flummoxed by it all. Ten's of thousands of American HO guys armed only with chequebooks and Model Railroader magazines can't find this easier to understand than you, mate! :D :D :D :D :D :D :lol: :lol:

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:24 pm

sarge wrote:Regarding the wiring et al for two rail, you of all people would not be my first choice for someone flummoxed by it all. Ten's of thousands of American HO guys armed only with chequebooks and Model Railroader magazines can't find this easier to understand than you, mate! :D :D :D :D :D :D :lol: :lol:


A similar thought occurred to me.......
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:42 pm

Now that I think about it, the coupler draft gear box also limits truck rotation on the one 2-rail car I am playing with.

Intimate knowledge of two rail track wiring helped in expressing my sentiment about it. My first layout was HO with Atlas fiber tie track and turnouts. I was pleasantly surprised when, years later, I got back into toy trains and found with 3-rail a train could go around a return loop, activate the non-derailing switch itself and return from whence it came with no frantic toggle switch throwing on my part. :mrgreen:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:08 pm

Wayne,

Not what any scale model railroader would say. :roll: :roll: :shock: :shock: :wink: :wink: :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:36 pm

I am not one of them Roger.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby sarge » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:03 pm

Wayne:

If I remember correctly, both the Riv and the Roco/Atlas Plymouths are grossly oversized (to fit the mechs), so a fair comparison.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby healey36 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:18 am

Even in N-scale the Plymouths (Lima) tend to be oversized:

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby J. S. Bach » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:57 am

healey36 wrote:ImageHealey


HOn3?? (Or whatever N gauge scales out to in HO scale.) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rex desilets » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:13 pm

unless the car is a hermaphrodite design that has the centre sill removed

Harsh, man, just harsh.
Ten's of thousands of American HO guys armed only with chequebooks and Model Railroader magazines can't find this easier to understand than you, mate!

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby 2railjon » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:10 pm

Did someone say Hat Day??????????
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:19 pm

Hat? Hat? Where? Why? :? :? :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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