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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:08 am

rogruth wrote:I think RAH published "Stranger" in 1963 and I find something I missed every time I read it [at least eight times,I know that is not a record].IMHO it still is an influence.


And the movie has yet to be made of it, too...........
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Postby ANG retired » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:54 am

IMHO, no movie could get the "feel" of Stranger, the interplay between characters, and the whole premise would not come across as well as it does in print.

Just my .02 worth of grokking
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:55 am

I don't think it can be.Politically.Non partisan at that.

But it sure would be interesting.
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:31 am

IMHO, no movie could get the "feel" of Stranger, the interplay between characters, and the whole premise would not come across as well as it does in print.

Just my .02 worth of grokking


rogruth wrote:I don't think it can be.Politically.Non partisan at that.

But it sure would be interesting.


And, I think that's why it has not been made; at one time I think that David Bowe had optioned the film rights, but that was decades ago.

There are numerous SF classics that have not been made for limited technology reasons (not an excuse any more...) or for making folks "uncomfortable" with having to actually think. Ideas that challenge and require thought are often threatening and dangerous...

So, what SF books would you like to see translated to the screen, preferably not as total abominations (I'm really seriously procrastinating today.....)?

Niven's Ringworld has been at the top of my list for a while
Varley's Titan books....
and my list could go on for pages...........and while not SF, Elric of Melnibone, also is a set of stories that I am known to be fond of noting my naming of my PA residence as Tanelorn, :wink:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:20 pm

Hey, anybody want to go catch a picture show at the Ritz?

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:32 am

Dirt,

Great Ritz.


Rufus,

There are several RAH stories that IMHO would make good movies but they are not his more noted works.
I also think that the fantasy pieces are easier to turn into movies than pure sci-fi.
Many seem to think that all this horror stuff is also sci-fi.I am not familiar with newer sci-fi at all.
I'll think about this.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:07 am

Pete,

Thank you for the movie house... just what I needed for my Heinlein movie posters.
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HEINLEIN: IN WORK

MOVIES
The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag (release date 2011)
Have Space Suit, Will Travel (release date 2013)

HEINLEIN: ANCIENT HISTORY

MOVIES
Starship Troopers (1997) Movie (Denise Richards plays Lt. Carmen Ibanez)
Robert A. Heinlein's The Puppet Masters (1994) Movie. (Cast includes Donald Sutherland, richard Belzer and Yaphet Kotto.)
The Brain Eaters (1958) Movie based on "The Puppet Masters" but gave no credit to Heinlein. (Cast includes Leonard Nimoy as Professor Cole.)
Project Moon Base (1953) Movie
Destination Moon (1950) Movie

TELEVISION
Jerry Was a Man (2007) TV
Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles (1999-2000) TV (41 episodes)
Red Planet (1994) TV
The Green Hills of Earth (1951) TV
Misfit (1951) TV
Ordeal in Space (1951) TV
Tom Corbett, Space Cadet (1950) TV
----Wayne----

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:47 am

How about Philip K. Dick?

Blade Runner (1982)
Based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

Screamers (1995)
Based on "Second Variety"

Total Recall (1990)
Based on "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale"

Confessions d'un Barjo (French, 1992)
Based on "Confessions of a Crap Artist"

Impostor (2001)
Based on "Impostor."

Minority Report (2002)
Based on "The Minority Report."

Paycheck (December 25, 2003)
Based on "Paycheck."

A Scanner Darkly (July 7, 2006)
Based on "A Scanner Darkly"

Next (April 27, 2007)
Based on "The Golden Man"

Films in Production

The Adjustment Bureau (coming 2010)
Based on "The Adjustment Team"

King of the Elves (coming 2012)
Based on "King of the Elves"
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:43 am

Hey, cool! Didn't know you guys'd be interested!

We can hop the Bloomsburg & Sullivan here in Orangeville...

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... and if we catch the 5:55, we'll be in Benton by 6:25...

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... and Wayne's the fastest. He can jump out at Forks and run over to Harrison's General Store...

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... and grab us all a Moxie while they're throwing off the mail...

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... and from the Benton station...

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... it's only a three block walk to the Ritz...

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... so we'll be in plenty of time to catch the 7:00 showing of "Destination Moon"!

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:55 am

Great pix!

How much of any of those building are still standing?
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:27 pm

Every last one except the Ritz.

The Orangeville station is closed and locked, but has never been used since the last train ran through in the early seventies. Light fixtures are still there, and the ticket agent's pull-down window, the flue for the free-standing pot-belly, and you can see by the faded paint where the regulator clock hung on the wall, but the furniture is all gone. The owner lives in Jersey, and I wish he would 'will' it to the town. His brother lives 100 yards from the station, but he's letting it go to pot, and he won't talk to his brother because they're feuding.

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The Forks station is still there, but it's used for storage by an excavator. There's all kinds of crap around the perimeter (oil tank, plows, pallets, a canoe, lumber, etc etc) under the extended eaves. Here it is in cleaner days. You'd have to lean over the crap to touch the walls, nowadays. Harrison's General Store is still standing, but the excavator (a scion of the Harrison family!) is using it for his offices, and he has added to it, including a two-bay truck garage. The original sign still hangs over the door. The General Store is beyond the station, in the pic.

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The Benton station is still standing, but it's been picked-up and moved across town, where it is now a private residence.

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The Ritz is now a modern brick dentist's office.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:34 pm

How many could you get close enough to for taking a good set of front on photos and be able to place a "measuring stick" in them against the building?

Too bad about the Ritz.......
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:31 pm

webenda wrote:Murph,

Does your reference give credit to Robert A. Heinlein for "grok?"...

No, Wayne. I went to a dictionary which simply said it was "an invented word," circa 1960's, of U.S. origin, meaning to "understand intuitively." (Concise Oxford English Dictoionary.)

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:42 pm

Murph, I've also have heard it to mean 'to understand, with empathy'. (There are others too, if it is googled.)
That's how I meant it with your travels in apple country.

Rufus, are you wondering about dimensions?

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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:50 pm

The Dirt wrote:Murph, I've also have heard it to mean 'to understand, with empathy'. (There are others too, if it is googled.)
That's how I meant it with your travels in apple country....

I understood you, Pete; fully, and much appreciated every word.

My apple quest expanded. I drove right back up there yesterday - unfinished business, you see. I had not explored a forest of conifers along a ridge, for some time now, and needed it again. However, this time I was awake to more.

Thursday's drive to Upstate suggested I had not been paying adequate attention on Monday's drive. From Scranton northward, every hill and valley looked as though Somebody had gotten the Crayons out again, overnight, just to intensify the whole statement. Every shade of lipstick I had ever seen was now out sunning itself and giving the world a kiss. I asked myself if two days could have made that much difference in the colors surrounding me in every direction. Or was the rising sun blazing through every leaf what encouraged everything not green to increase its attitude?

Colors didn't simply amaze; they refreshed. In fact, it was a good thing all those colors weren't voices in some wild opera because nothing could have been heard above such a chorus. The entire landscape was issuing a challenge, daring anybody to take only one look. And cohorts participated this time, hard at work consipiring to give a good lesson in who actually was boss.

Petunias peered out from porches and along fences, still holding onto a bright attitude and grinning up at folks from where they had played all summer. New mums added to the show and, obviously, had no intention of being ignored or sidelined. They seemd to have little smart-alec grins on their pompom faces saying, "Quit messin' around and pay attention!" Even sumac and poison ivy did their luminous bit to add to the conspiracy to dazzle.

Maybe it was the approach of Halloween or perhaps the whole ending feel to Autumn that made me notice, amidst the entire show, several low fieldstone walls maintaining vigilance at their precincts around cemeteries. Ancient, thin headstones leaned vulnerable profiles in awkward directions, marking the places where lives long turned to dust had stopped.

Overgrown fields partially concealed exhausted tractors and clumps of rusted machinery and parts, too old for me to have any idea what their use had been. The occasional barn or outbuilding seemed sufficiently tired and faded to surrender and fall right over and not force the effort of staying upright throughout another winter.

And in the midst of it all were the cows, still there, obviously out for another afternoon with friends, reclining under trees, with nothing on their minds.

The Tioughnioga River did its casual, shimmering, emerald best to impress, at times too intensely for a direct look. It was seductive. So, on this 88degree day, I decided to wade in up to my knees, at most, wearing my sneakers and clothes. Most of the river was barely knee-high and made for a safe (and familiar) adventure. It glistened right alongside me, in nearly every direction, making it seem like I had stepped into a river of mercury, not water. Its cold touch made me take even deeper breaths of the scene around me and fill up with it all. I felt grateful. During the slog back to the car, I was sure I was ten again (or was it twenty?) Maybe, just a happy 66.


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