Car Thread

[Tom Dempsey]

As long as you observe all the applicable traffic laws, of course they are.

[HONDO74]

As long as you observe all the applicable traffic laws, of course they are.

What I was referring to is do they have to be licensed for the street or are they considered like a bike you pedal.

[rogruth]

In the late 1940s and early 1950s, Whizzer and other types of motor bikes were considered bicycles if they had pedals that could be used to move them and not just for starting purposes. At least in Ohio. I don't know about today and it probably varies by state.

[webenda]

Bicycle Fun
9,000w DIY eBike
https://youtu.be/HIhfwjWuj-I
28,000 watt E-bike
https://youtu.be/SiiNORLzA18
42,000 watt Electric Bike
https://youtu.be/sRH_cpCwNDs

Are these bikes street legal. ??

No. (Sorry Tom.) They would have to have added equipment to meet local motor vehicle laws and be registered as motor vehicles to be legal. The ones shown in the videos are not street legal.

While Federal law governs consumer product regulations for "low speed electric bicycles", as with motor vehicles and bicycles, regulation of how these products are used on public streets is subject to state vehicle codes. There is significant variation from state to state (and country to country.)
Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws
https://electricbikereview.com/guides/ebike-laws-usa/
http://peopleforbikes.org/blog/new-e-bi ... alifornia/

Wayne,
When are you getting your electric bike? Or do you have it already?

I do not have one and do not plan on getting one. Such a bike would defeat my purpose in riding a bicycle, exercise.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

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Wayne,
When are you getting your electric bike? Or do you have it already?

I do not have one and do not plan on getting one. Such a bike would defeat my purpose....

Yeah, but I'd pay money to see you bopping around on one.

[Tom Dempsey]

No. (Sorry Tom.) They would have to have added equipment to meet local motor vehicle laws and be registered as motor vehicles to be legal. The ones shown in the videos are not street legal.

So, you agree with my assessment, anything is street legal as long as you comply with all legal requirements.

[webenda]

I agree with your assessment as you reworded it. High power bicycles are considered motorcycles and must be equipped with at least 1 and no more than 3 headlights, 1 tail light, 1 brake light, a registration plate light, turn signal lights, rear reflectors, a horn, and side view mirrors. The electric bicyles Hondo was asking about were not street legal.

Bicycles with low power electric assist are treated by law the same as bicycles in most locations of the world.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

...........regulation of how these products are used on public streets is subject to state vehicle codes. There is significant variation from state to state...........

This is well worth checking the precise wording in whatever state reside or plan to ride such vehicles, and you should have a copy of the relevant code on your person when riding. Even the police may not know what the law states.

A friend years ago had one of those old Whizzer bikes and was pulled over by the local police repeatedly and ticketed. After he started carrying a copy of the relevant code to show the police when pulled over, he was allowed to proceed.

[robert.]

This site is built by a company selling bikes. Their list of PA. motorized bike laws Will keep you out of trouble if you follow them.
http://www.motorizedbicyclehq.com/motor ... nsylvania/

[v8vega]

You can buy a new Whizzer, a company is reproducing them.

[healey36]

Earl Cooper and his Stutz at Indy, 1915:



Looking at old photos such as this help me understand Hemingway's contention that automobile racing and bull fighting were the two greatest sports.

Healey

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Earl Cooper and his Stutz at Indy, 1915:

Who's his co-pilot? Looks to be very cozy in there.

[rex desilets]

Perhaps that led to the invention of deodorant

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Perhaps that led to the invention of deodorant

We can but only hope!

[rogruth]

Perhaps that led to the invention of deodorant

That was the original purpose of perfume, I think.