thought trainz had an aneurysm

[ScaleCraft]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lionel-675-Vin ... 2859885833

I mean, a 675 with tender for less than $65. Until I looked. Have to save pictures, lighten, zoom....oh, gawd.
Main rods and crossheads gone. ALMOST all the valve gear gone (both eccentric cranks and rod, one hanger and valve rod). Wires ripped off tender trucks. Rusted, but not too bad...but the engine is GROWING! Got moss growing on the running boards, piping, drivers.....must be another one of the "clean out grandpaw's flooded basement after the house burned down".
Cab roof corner bent, class light broken off, even the handrails on the tender water deck are rusted. Got something stuck in the cab windows. Black tape? Reflects in one shot, can't see detail in another.

Typical trainz pixx poor photos.

[chuck]

There is something off in those photo's. The cab window frames are missing but there is an occasional glint of white or light grey background that shows through? Also, on the Trainz photo's below it looks like the you can see through the boiler when looking into the cab? Something's either not right with the pictures or the locomotive itself.

[ScaleCraft]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. One of the shots window looks white...but I believe that's a reflection. Another looks black, you can see the "cab seat" or raised floor lit on the other side of the cab until it gets to the window, the black.

Really strange, but fits in with the rest of the current garbage that's melted, rusted, bent, twisted and growing green stuff.

[Roy]

...on the Trainz photo's below it looks like the you can see through the boiler when looking into the cab? Something's either not right with the pictures or the locomotive itself.

There's no boiler backhead in the 675. Do you have any postwar Lionel, Chuck?

[chuck]

I have the O-27 version. The 2025. It does not have a backhead. The cab windows have "mullions" (at least they are supposed to). I can't see anything from the cabin back looking forward except the spur motor. No idea what's going on with the photos posted.

[rogruth]

That most of this stuff actually sells amazes me.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

That most of this stuff actually sells amazes me.

Does it really sell? Might be interesting to check on that for all that he's posted over the past month or so.

[ScaleCraft]

We don't know..some of this stuff, no idea what the evilbait program is, but it stays up for months and months with no "5d 23h left". Those $24K passenger cars are still up.
When moro.....ooops...."sellers" relist, sometimes cheaper, I try to point that out.
Burner reports trainz won't budge on pricing. I cannot imagine that all this stuff sells for anywhere near the asking.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

We don't know..some of this stuff, no idea what the evilbait program is, but it stays up for months and months with no "5d 23h left". Those $24K passenger cars are still up.

Those are generally Buy it now listings that can be up very long with an automatic relist w/o changing anything

When moro.....ooops...."sellers" relist, sometimes cheaper, I try to point that out.
Burner reports trainz won't budge on pricing. I cannot imagine that all this stuff sells for anywhere near the asking.

He is incorrect on Traniz. They do very slowly drop prices on listings and at times change from a Buy it now listing to an auction listing. I have no idea what their criteria are for any of those changes - seems almost random. I will note that they generally drop prices to a point where I might have bought had not someone else acted faster.

[ScaleCraft]

I was out this morning ripping scenery out on the outdoor railroad (couldn't see the tracks) and though about this engine.
An engine headed for scrap, pull the main rods, pull the eccentric rods, plywood over the windows.
Motor block is probably shot, easy scenery addition.

As far as the bait, even if something is marked as "sold', is it really?
I have seen stuff allegedly "sold" that shows up again.

First you ask yourself did it really sell, or did the "winner' back out?
Again, we'll never know.

I think there has to be a pile of clueless "winners" or at least bidders if they keep enabling this garbage.
Splitting engines and tenders? Oh, yeah, let me pay twice current market value to buy both pieces separately (like a short A-N tender for $195, unpainted), or gee, whiz, I always wanted a set of 2343 diesels, my eyesight (and brain) is so bad I can't see paint gone, shell warped, screws ripped out, rust...but I'll pay a PREMIUM so I can say I "won" the auction or BIN!

Or starting price of 275 for a Walthers depressed center flat.

Or the fraud of listing a cheap MARX car as LIONEL!
Or a pile of rusted, broken stuff listed as LIONEL with ONE of the pieces so manufactured.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

As far as the bait, even if something is marked as "sold', is it really?
I have seen stuff allegedly "sold" that shows up again.

First you ask yourself did it really sell, or did the "winner' back out?
Again, we'll never know.

I have had buyers back out; I have seen stuff re-listed with a note from the seller included in the listing explaining the circumstances, too.

There actually are unscrupulous buyers.

Or the fraud of listing a cheap MARX car as LIONEL!

Fraud might require prove of knowledge otherwise; I file most of these under ignorance & greed; there's a big crowd at the intersection of ignorance & greed.........

[ScaleCraft]

there's a big crowd at the intersection of ignorance & greed.........

If I remember, this series on da bait started with that premise. Add stupidity and we're closer.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

there's a big crowd at the intersection of ignorance & greed.........

If I remember, this series on da bait started with that premise. Add stupidity and we're closer.

Fair enough.

[ScaleCraft]

there's a big crowd at the intersection of ignorance & greed.........

If I remember, this series on da bait started with that premise. Add stupidity and we're closer.

Fair enough.

Only took you four months! (ouch....quit throwing things!).

I do believe the idiocy has increased exponentially while everyone is locked down.
Sorta like Junior High kids stuck in a computer technology classroom, and they spend the time sending out scam spam.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

If I remember, this series on da bait started with that premise. Add stupidity and we're closer.

Fair enough.

Only took you four months! (ouch....quit throwing things!).

Watch out for the anvil.......well, maybe next time....

I do believe the idiocy has increased exponentially while everyone is locked down.
Sorta like Junior High kids stuck in a computer technology classroom, and they spend the time sending out scam spam.

Well, since I'm not going to shows and meets, not selling at them, I've been listing stuff nearly every week.

Of course going to the PO to mail stuff was pretty surreal in May

Everybody is on their computer and phones now more than every before. File that under the new normal.