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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:27 pm

SR, did your dad ever tell you any stories about his time riding?

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I find it very interesting. How did you find this info?

Roger, pure serendipity. A fellow nurse was looking up a road with a VERY non-politically-correct name, near where he used to live. This site came up as an option on Google.

This picture, in particular, interests me, a view of Catawissa.

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The creek in the foreground provided water for an old stone mill just a bit upstream. The road through the covered bridge eventually ran down to Sunbury.

The bridge in the middle ground was the wagon/horse road, and maybe a mile over the river is the stone formation called the Indian Head. I put some postcard pictures of the changes to the road over the years. Amazing spot- cliff face with Indian Head, then dirt road, RR tracks, Pa Canal, and then the river, all running side-by-side.

The Pennsylvania Canal, on the far side of the river, ran down to Northumberland, and this was the branch that brought coal down from the Scranton, Wilkes-Barre, and Nanticoke coal fields.

The bridge in the far background is a railroad bridge, crossing over toward Bloomsburg.

The railroad steamer you see curling in the foreground was the Catawissa RR, (which had a full yard/shops/turntable in it's day), in the mid-1800's, later to become the P&R RR, and after coming through Catawissa, it headed south toward Philadelphia, including several huge wooden trestles to ford the mountainous area south of Catawissa, if you remember the pictures of the huge stone foundations that anchored either end of one of the wooden trestles, that still exist today.

Later, the Pennsy would work it's way up the east (near) side of the river, paralleling the DL&W over on the west side.

The P&R ran parallel to the Pennsy until just before the RR bridge, where it crossed the Pennsy and then the river, if you remember the pics I put up of that crossing, it's switch tower, and the bridge.

The P&R crossed the river, curled around a mountain, and headed west then north, but it had a branch line that dead-ended in Bloomsburg. There was, north of Bloomsburg, a mile-long railroad between the Irondale Furnace and the Pennsylvania Canal, running pig iron down to the canal. It was shortened to dead-end at the station in Bloomsburg that served the P&R, and this iron-moving railroad was eventually extended up the Fishing Creek Valley and became my beloved Bloomsburg and Sullivan RR that ran through Orangeville, the town of which is some 8 miles north of Bloomsburg beyond the last mountain in the background.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:08 pm

So if I get this,you were looking for other stuff and just came up on it.
When I do something like that I get side tracked and lose track of what I was doing.
I do remember those "essays".Thank you.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Mitch » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:24 pm

It would appear that a correction has been made to the forum.

Fastrack.
Crack.
Frederick.

We can now begin with F or C and end with K ant it'll work. :wink: No more asterisks! :lol:

Silly censor is gone! 8)
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:07 pm

Let's see.

Frank.Flunk.

You're right.

Some of the censored F words didn't make sense.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:00 am

We are expecting low temperature of 30 degrees Fahrenheit where I live tonight.
Cold enough to freeze the ocean? Not quite, sea water freezes at 28.4 degrees Fahrenheit.
Sometimes, when sea water freezes, wonderful frost flowers grow out of the ocean.
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Reference: http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/ ... everywhere
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:35 am

What a gift! Thank you, Wayne! Merry Christmas and every other day, too, to you, too!
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:38 am

I don't often think ice is beautiful but that is.

I wonder at the size of the frost flowers.How large are they?

I can't tell from the surroundings.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:28 pm

rogruth wrote:I wonder at the size of the frost flowers.How large are they?

I can't tell from the surroundings.

Does this help?

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:03 pm

WOW!

I wonder what they do with harvested frost flowers?
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:25 pm

rogruth wrote:WOW!

I wonder what they do with harvested frost flowers?



They make up scientific lies about them. If you use the link under the first image you will find at least two lies.

Lie: "...air turns back into ice..."
Truth: Frost Flowers are from the solid deposition of water vapor from humid air. They are not a form of solid air.

Lie: "...scientists prize frost flowers because they are so salty. These blossoms suck up seawater, concentrate the salt and have three times the salinity of the ocean."
Truth: When the ocean freezes, only the water freezes, leaving salt in the ocean. When the ocean evaporates, only the water evaporates... salt is left in the ocean. These Frost Flowers are formed from water vapor in the air depositing on bumps in sea ice (sea ice is pure water, salt free.) They cannot suck up sea water because the ice they grow on forms a barrier between the Frost Flower and the ocean.

Statement: "...they found each frost flower housed about a million creatures."
Truth: I don't know. My first thought is they might have contaminated the Frost Flower samples when they harvested them. But, on second thought, the environments bacteria are found thriving in are so diverse, I have no reason to disbelieve the bacteria report. There is even a bacterium that encourages the growth of ice crystals, the Pseudomonas syringae, common name, Ice-minus bacteria.

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-minus_bacteria


"Contaminated samples" reminds me of the first time the EPA required Hughes Aircraft do a monthly test of water runoff from the plant site here in Tucson in order to protect the fish and snails in the washes out in the desert.(They are all dry washes, talk about stupid laws.) We are in the desert... it does not rain every month here. We started by turning in the monthly forms stating, "No rain this period." These reports are sent to the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality (ADEQ). ADEQ never said a word about our mostly blank reports.

Then, one July morning at 2 AM, we had a thunderstorm. The Environmental Engineer awoke at home, got dressed and rushed to work to get a sample of runoff water from the wash our runoff runs into. Later that morning he called ADEQ to get the test fish and snails. The critters arrived the next day and were put in the water... where they promptly died.

Environmental Engineering at Hughes was in a panic. They sent a sample of the runoff water to our failure analysis lab. The lab found a huge bloom of bacteria and close to zero oxygen in the sample.

Seems soil bacteria in deserts lie dormant until a rain comes along, then they have to hurry and do whatever bacteria do before the ground dries up and they have to return to their dormant stage. In our water sample they divided and multiplied to the point of using up all the oxygen in just a few hours.

Environmental Engineering sent their first "It rained!" report to ADEQ stating, "They all died in less than one hour." Dreading the worst (an EPA agent living in the plant to "help" us) we waited and waited. ADEQ never said a word.

Facilities engineering didn't wait for the EPA to come down on us, they built a dry pond to collect our rainwater and protect the little fishes and water snails living in the dry washes around the plantsite.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:35 pm

See, a fella can learn stuff upinhere, if he wants ta.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby jw_clarke54 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:38 pm

It seems to me that with all the studies(cost effective of course) since Hardly any rain falls there,there couldnt have been many studies,not with any Clear objective. not to mention that this would be the ulminate test of Dry farming, like maybe Mars, W/O water.??? or could it be that I'm just talking out down low :shock: :shock: :shock: :o jaMES

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:45 pm

Oh, you be talkin' all right; I'm jus' not sure....

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:26 pm

webenda wrote:Seems soil bacteria in deserts lie dormant until a rain comes along, then they have to hurry and do whatever bacteria do before the ground dries up and they have to return to their dormant stage. In our water sample they divided and multiplied to the point of using up all the oxygen in just a few hours.


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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:27 pm

All this on a model train forum.

No,I am NOT complaining.I'm bragging that we are able to participate on a forum where many things can be learned by those that want to learn.

Let's keep up the good work.
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