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HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby Chris Webster » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:36 pm

The message below has been posted to a couple of email lists; it is about the NEB&W model railroad that is in the basement of a dormitory building at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, NY.

There is some additional information about what's happening on the NEB&W Facebook page.

Hi, I'm trying to send out this info to all our active club members and supporters but in my rush, I'm sure I'm overlooking many - please spread the word and for anyone who hears about this only secondhand, I sincerely apologize.

We have just gotten word that shortly, perhaps a few weeks, a professional mover is going to come in and crate up sections of the layout, along with everything else, and move them out of Davison. These will either be stored in a warehouse or if we are lucky, moved to a new permanent home. The school wants to rehab Davison over the summer with all new plumbing, etc., but wants the layout now. At first when they were talking about this, they were figuring they would totally box in the layout to protect it from swinging pipes around, but they would have to remove the backdrop and build us a whole new one. On reconsideration, they figured it would be better to move us instead.

So where? Barb Nelson, who used to work at RPI in space allocation, is now the Executive Director of TAP Inc. (Troy Architectural Program) and wants very much for us to move to some place where the layout can readily be seen by the public. She is very sympathetic to our needs and attuned to the entire downtown building boom. She thinks there may be some appropriate space downtown opening up. Many developers are having a hard time filling their first floor with retailers, and she sees the layout as generating a lot of foot traffic. We don’t have anything definite yet. If it does, our role might change, whether we stay a part of RPI, be a collaboration with say the county historical society, become totally independent, or who knows what. We know one important consideration no matter what would be to ensure this is a permanent home.

Or we have been talking about a new building, a simple (and thus cheap) steel shell building on a concrete pad floor somewhere on RPI property.

For years and years, we have looked at moving to an existing location in an unused space, but we take up far more room than people think. And if we were to move into J Building or Winslow, even if we fit – we don’t – it would cost so much to remove walls, etc. But now we are talking about a prime location, not a spare attic or unused basement.

Please spread the word to EVERYONE you can think of. Massive amounts of publicity are needed, and soon, both word-of-mouth and professional media. In this way, we may reach some wealthy benefactor, or even just convince the school the importance of not letting us wither away in storage. We will be looking into some type of go-fund-me campaign, hopefully in conjunction say with a local historical group. (We probably can’t do it under RPI without stepping on some toes).

The contract to move us has yet to be signed, but they are aiming for a few weeks. Then we will know the timetable but it likely to be soon after. Once we have a definite date, we are hopeful of holding one last operating session. If you know of individuals who need to see the layout, I can set up an individual tour - it may be now or never.

- John Nehrich

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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby 2railjon » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:00 pm

Sad, but it happens. Before I went 2 Rail, I was in an O Gauge club in Houston where a mall gave us free space. After a few years and a lot of work they decided to kick us out. The same thing happened in Jackson. When you’re given rent free space prepare for the worst. Never again, my lesson learned.
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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:29 pm

The Baltimore club got notice to vacate and is under 90 days now.

The Winchester, Va club as I understand it also is in the same fix.

The days of having a club in a rented space may be ending very quickly.
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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby De Bruin » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:47 pm

That's sad to hear, it's classic layout too.
My opinion it's axiomatic that you better not build a permanent layout unless you own the building; modular layout's, while typically suffering from the concessions made to portability, repeated set-ups and handling etc. at least provide the flexibility to occupy temporary spaces for an indeterminate length of time without flushing a ton of man hours and monies down the drain once the space owner pulls the plug. Modulars have their own special expenses and dependencies too but at least you mostly control your own destiny.
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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby DaveJfr0 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:01 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:The Baltimore club got notice to vacate and is under 90 days now.


Was afraid of that when I was first asked to join years ago. That and some politics at a meeting I stayed for kept me away.

I'm sure they are busy, but maybe Doug or someone in the club should chronicle the club's layout one last time in a magazine before its gone, if it isn't already gone.

Good luck on their search. I can't think of any good location for them. Hopefully they can find the same rent or less and move to a slightly less seedy part of Baltimore or the surrounding counties.
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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby E7 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:54 am

I know talk is cheap,and it's easy to say these kind of things, but given the History of clubs being booted, the first item of a new formed club's agenda should be securing/building a location which is under THEIR
control. I wish them well.

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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby PRR Man » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:13 pm

a club's worst nightmare.
at the Cherry Valley RR, we work very hard to bring interest to the church we inhabit. granted our space is not really usable for anything other than church storage if we were not there. we make sure we are open to the public when they hold public events. adding a fun family dimension to their activities... and each year give a generous donation to the church. feather your bed I say.

I hope the NEBW club can find a new home soon. one that meets their needs and budget.

speaking of PR, I was just through Troy last Friday, and plan to pass through again this Friday. there are literally 1000's of skiers that pass through Troy on their way to VT every week in the winter. plus I'll mention the summer traffic. there has to more than just me as a potential model RR visitor to their club.
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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby Chris Webster » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:53 pm

A Letter to the Editor posted on the website of the RPI newspaper:
Last train for Troy: Rensselaer model railroad in danger


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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby Chris Webster » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:22 am

In February, things went bad. A February 18, 2020 article in the Troy Record newspaper:
RPI's Model Railroad Society could be in trouble

Then RPI fired John Nehrich on February 26, 2020:
NEB&W February 27 at 9:36 AM
Just a brief note to let you all know I was fired from RPI yesterday. I'll be posting more information later but not only will have not be working on restoring and expanding the layout, I won't be able to visit it as I can't set foot on RPI property for fear of arrest.

I will be continuing to build models, mainly of south Troy but as I've been saying recently, these are for me - I plan on making small dioramas and display some of them from time to time downtown. And I will continue to post information on this site, including the work that I and others have done on the old layout. - JN

Source: Facebook post - Just a brief note to let you all know I was fired from RPI yesterday.

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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:29 am

Saw that on another site a while back - quite the head scratcher - wonder what the rest of that story might be and if it will ever come to light....
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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby healey36 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:43 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Saw that on another site a while back - quite the head scratcher - wonder what the rest of that story might be and if it will ever come to light....

My kid went to RPI, graduated in 2011. He said there was always an underlying level of tension between the student body and the admin there. President Shirley Ann Jackson has quite a reputation as a rather ham-fisted administrator...her way or the highway. Some of that sensibility. or lack thereof, shows through in matters such as this.

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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:13 pm

an underlying level of tension between the student body and the admin there.


Well, that goes in a lot of directions at the same time given the amount of sheer entitlement that some students believe that is theirs.
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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby healey36 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:19 pm

I think most of the issues centered on how the Jackson admin was spending the school's rather meager funds. Building hotels, state-of-the-art theater buildings, and a comprehensive refurb of the president's residence didn't go over well.

Still, concerns over the club's fate might be overblown:

https://news.rpi.edu/content/2020/01/29/rensselaer-model-railroad-society-moves-new-home-hoosick-street

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Re: HO: New England, Berkshire & Western club losing its home

Postby ScaleCraft » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:45 pm

That was published January 29, 2020 the month before everything seems to have gone into the terlet.
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