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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:18 am

That's interesting. I'd love to hear more about this.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:27 am

rogruth wrote:
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rogruth wrote:Murph,
A little different but try to tell others that don't know how to pronounce that Pittsbugh area river that begins with a Y.
We won't worry about the correct spelling because that is not taught anymore so can't be expected. :)

Youghiogheny River :D

Yes, that one.
Now spell it phonetically so it can be pronounced correctly.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby robert. » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:32 am

My friend’s daughter will earn $280,000 a year for 3 years in Dubai. Tax free. Nine months out of the year she will work stateside. She went from a bad banking job in nyc to a very good job based in Dubai. Most of her work will be in Chicago, Washington state and Toronto.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:33 am

I don't know about today, but there was a time when, if you worked in the oil business, you could make more if you were willing to go overseas.
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:54 am

robert. wrote:My friend’s daughter will earn $280,000 a year for 3 years in Dubai. Tax free. Nine months out of the year she will work stateside. She went from a bad banking job in nyc to a very good job based in Dubai. Most of her work will be in Chicago, Washington state and Toronto.

I hope she's writing a book about these experiences, or at least, keeping a diary of it all. That's got to be very, very interesting adventure, one that should be shared.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:35 pm

robert. wrote:My friend’s daughter will earn $280,000 a year for 3 years in Dubai.

I hope she checked this out thoroughly, because many American girls have been sexually abused in similar arrangements.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:38 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Aside from the medical profession, where does a college graduate go for a job in contemporary American life?


Depends on the subject matter degree.

STEM areas and at the top of your class can get you employment just about anywhere - engineer degree in a biotech related area gets you hired in the biopharma area.

Non-STEM degrees.............a lot tougher and do you want fries with that order?
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:41 pm

robert. wrote:My friend’s daughter will earn $280,000 a year for 3 years in Dubai. Tax free. Nine months out of the year she will work stateside. She went from a bad banking job in nyc to a very good job based in Dubai. Most of her work will be in Chicago, Washington state and Toronto.


$90K a year.........but that income will be taxable when she brings it back into the US and even if she leaves it out of the country, it still have to be declared. Chicago and Toronto are not cheap places to live....
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:57 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Non-STEM degrees.............a lot tougher and do you want fries with that order?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But then
Venture capitalist: AI will displace 40 percent of world's jobs in as soon as 15 years
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venture-ca ... 0-minutes/

In as soon as 15 years, 40 percent of the world's jobs could be done by machines, according to one of the world's foremost experts on artificial intelligence. Kai Fu Lee, a pioneer in AI and venture capitalist based in China makes this prediction in a Scott Pelley report about AI on the next edition of 60 Minutes, Sunday, Jan. 13 at 7 p.m., ET/PT on CBS.

"AI will increasingly replace repetitive jobs, not just for blue-collar work, but a lot of white-collar work,"

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:39 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Non-STEM degrees.............a lot tougher and do you want fries with that order?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But then
Venture capitalist: AI will displace 40 percent of world's jobs in as soon as 15 years
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venture-ca ... 0-minutes/

In as soon as 15 years, 40 percent of the world's jobs could be done by machines, according to one of the world's foremost experts on artificial intelligence. Kai Fu Lee, a pioneer in AI and venture capitalist based in China makes this prediction in a Scott Pelley report about AI on the next edition of 60 Minutes, Sunday, Jan. 13 at 7 p.m., ET/PT on CBS.

"AI will increasingly replace repetitive jobs, not just for blue-collar work, but a lot of white-collar work,"

And there will be more people out of work and/or doing menial work and living on welfare.
This probably won't affect me much but my kids, their kids and their kids will be affected.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:00 pm

rogruth wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Non-STEM degrees.............a lot tougher and do you want fries with that order?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But then
Venture capitalist: AI will displace 40 percent of world's jobs in as soon as 15 years
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venture-ca ... 0-minutes/

In as soon as 15 years, 40 percent of the world's jobs could be done by machines, according to one of the world's foremost experts on artificial intelligence. Kai Fu Lee, a pioneer in AI and venture capitalist based in China makes this prediction in a Scott Pelley report about AI on the next edition of 60 Minutes, Sunday, Jan. 13 at 7 p.m., ET/PT on CBS.

"AI will increasingly replace repetitive jobs, not just for blue-collar work, but a lot of white-collar work,"

And there will be more people out of work and/or doing menial work and living on welfare.
This probably won't affect me much but my kids, their kids and their kids will be affected.


Could be? Serious maybe..... I don't think it's that assured and certainly not in the near future as that's all skipping over a lot of steps and stages where AI won't be doing the actual work. People will still have to do the real work around AI. This is very much like the fear mongering over robots being used in the automobile industry.

Someone has to build and create AI; all of those machines will not build themselves. All of those machines will require assembly and installation on site - someone has to build the sites where the machines get installed. Someone has to make the materials. Etc., etc., etc......
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:34 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rogruth wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But then
Venture capitalist: AI will displace 40 percent of world's jobs in as soon as 15 years
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venture-ca ... 0-minutes/

In as soon as 15 years, 40 percent of the world's jobs could be done by machines, according to one of the world's foremost experts on artificial intelligence. Kai Fu Lee, a pioneer in AI and venture capitalist based in China makes this prediction in a Scott Pelley report about AI on the next edition of 60 Minutes, Sunday, Jan. 13 at 7 p.m., ET/PT on CBS.

"AI will increasingly replace repetitive jobs, not just for blue-collar work, but a lot of white-collar work,"

And there will be more people out of work and/or doing menial work and living on welfare.
This probably won't affect me much but my kids, their kids and their kids will be affected.


Could be? Serious maybe..... I don't think it's that assured and certainly not in the near future as that's all skipping over a lot of steps and stages where AI won't be doing the actual work. People will still have to do the real work around AI. This is very much like the fear mongering over robots being used in the automobile industry.

Someone has to build and create AI; all of those machines will not build themselves. All of those machines will require assembly and installation on site - someone has to build the sites where the machines get installed. Someone has to make the materials. Etc., etc., etc......

But then can't those machines be built to build more machines?
Will Dr. Asimov's laws actually become part of our world?
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:18 pm

rogruth wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rogruth wrote:And there will be more people out of work and/or doing menial work and living on welfare.
This probably won't affect me much but my kids, their kids and their kids will be affected.


Could be? Serious maybe..... I don't think it's that assured and certainly not in the near future as that's all skipping over a lot of steps and stages where AI won't be doing the actual work. People will still have to do the real work around AI. This is very much like the fear mongering over robots being used in the automobile industry.

Someone has to build and create AI; all of those machines will not build themselves. All of those machines will require assembly and installation on site - someone has to build the sites where the machines get installed. Someone has to make the materials. Etc., etc., etc......

But then can't those machines be built to build more machines?
Will Dr. Asimov's laws actually become part of our world?


Possibly they could but they will have to build every machine from scratch to do everything since nothing exists yet that an AI can make use of to do what you ask. The interfaces for electronic action to be converted into every physical action do not presently exist.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:26 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rogruth wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Could be? Serious maybe..... I don't think it's that assured and certainly not in the near future as that's all skipping over a lot of steps and stages where AI won't be doing the actual work. People will still have to do the real work around AI. This is very much like the fear mongering over robots being used in the automobile industry.

Someone has to build and create AI; all of those machines will not build themselves. All of those machines will require assembly and installation on site - someone has to build the sites where the machines get installed. Someone has to make the materials. Etc., etc., etc......

But then can't those machines be built to build more machines?
Will Dr. Asimov's laws actually become part of our world?


Possibly they could but they will have to build every machine from scratch to do everything since nothing exists yet that an AI can make use of to do what you ask. The interfaces for electronic action to be converted into every physical action do not presently exist.

OK. Thank you.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:27 pm

Will Dr. Asimov's laws actually become part of our world?


Probably, but also probably with a back door override.
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