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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:19 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:It all looks very precarious, though the animal only seems mildly annoyed/amused (wearing a chapeau?)


A nasty dirty job, but a job...........100+ years ago was nastier and dirtier, and dangerous.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby rogruth » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:54 am

Why are the rear wheels so large on the cars being pulled? What is the load?
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:01 am

rogruth wrote:Why are the rear wheels so large on the cars being pulled? What is the load?


No idea. I'm sure that Wayne will have an answer.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:24 pm

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby webenda » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:04 pm

rogruth wrote:Why are the rear wheels so large on the cars being pulled? What is the load?

I do not know what the load is, but the disparity in wheel size is more due to the way wagons steer. The entire front axle pivots. This pivot action causes the front wheels to hit the load box. Smaller wheels can negotiate sharper turns than large wheels. The Laughlin Dairy wagon design shows this to an extreme example where the front wheels are small enough to pass under the wagon.

Rear wheels are sized for the load, larger wheels can take a larger load. The wagons in question appear to be loaded with more bags in the rear to take advantage of larger load carrying capacity of the rear wheels.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby rogruth » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:05 pm

Thanks, Wayne.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:19 pm

webenda wrote:
rogruth wrote:Why are the rear wheels so large on the cars being pulled? What is the load?

I do not know what the load is, ..........


Neither do I, but the width of those wheels either indicates significant weight and/or that the road is a bit on the soft side....bagged up ore of some sort?
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby aterry11 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:26 pm

Just a thought but the trailers being pulled look an awful lot like old steam tractors with the boilers removed and turned into wagons.
The tractor appears to have a radiator and a smokestack. Which is confusing

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:42 pm

aterry11 wrote:Just a thought but the trailers being pulled look an awful lot like old steam tractors with the boilers removed and turned into wagons.
The tractor appears to have a radiator and a smokestack. Which is confusing


It's a Holt tractor - not steam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holt_tractor

The trailers could also be from Holt?

BTW, Wiseman sells a kit for a Holt tractor............
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Seaboard Air Line Fan » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:58 pm

My guess on the cargo would be sacks of cotton.

About the right size and with a smooth shape. I would think if they had some kind of fruit or vegetable in them they would be more lumpy.

With a sack holding 100+ lbs of cotton it would require a heavy duty trailer to carry them.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Wolf » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:09 pm

I am surprised that some of you TOC modelers did not mention that they may be bags of grain.
Such grains were commonly shipped in bagged form in boxcars prior to the advent of loose shipping
in boxcars with grain doors, and later loose in covered hoppers. The Pacific Coast Railway out
of San Luis Obispo in California even shipped bagged wheat stacked on flatcars during the dry
season around the 1890's through the 1920's.

I have also seen pictures of similar "road trains" carrying wheat to market in the Central Valley
of California. Railroads did not reach everywhere in the Golden Age :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby webenda » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:23 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:The trailers could also be from Holt?
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby webenda » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:36 pm

Wolf wrote:I am surprised that some of you TOC modelers did not mention that they may be bags of grain.
Such grains were commonly shipped in bagged form in boxcars prior to the advent of loose shipping
in boxcars with grain doors, and later loose in covered hoppers. The Pacific Coast Railway out
of San Luis Obispo in California even shipped bagged wheat stacked on flatcars during the dry
season around the 1890's through the 1920's.

I have also seen pictures of similar "road trains" carrying wheat to market in the Central Valley
of California. Railroads did not reach everywhere in the Golden Age :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Hauling Wheat.jpg (213.19 KiB) Viewed 1955 times
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby webenda » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:39 pm

The tractor was then used to pull a grader for local road maintenance.
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