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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby chuck » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:59 am

Odd thing about Office is the serious fracture between "old hands" and people who never used earlier versions. Some of this is "they Don't know what they are missing. I did notice that someone that had not used the earlier versions was picking up on the controls (I.e. "the ribbon") while those that had been using it before it was even office just struggled to find the controls/menu items. For a while Mac version allowed a "classic" view. Spent a lot of time googling how to do what had been simple in Office 97 but we now hidden in the later versions.

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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby v8vega » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:59 am

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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby webenda » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:32 pm

rogruth wrote:
webenda wrote:As for me, I got stupid. Six months ago I waited two months before updating after I started getting those annoying messages to update. The wait was for Microsoft to get the bugs out. Not remembering any problems last time, I did not wait this round. Oh yeah! Now I remember, never accept anything from Microsoft until they have time to debug it. :roll:

How do you do that?

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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby rogruth » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:38 pm

webenda wrote:
rogruth wrote:
webenda wrote:As for me, I got stupid. Six months ago I waited two months before updating after I started getting those annoying messages to update. The wait was for Microsoft to get the bugs out. Not remembering any problems last time, I did not wait this round. Oh yeah! Now I remember, never accept anything from Microsoft until they have time to debug it. :roll:

How do you do that?

What, get stupid? It is a gift I have. You probably don't have the gift or you wouldn't ask how to do it. :D

:roll: :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink:
No how do you ignore updates? They seem to happen automatically when I turn off the computer.
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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby robert. » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:33 pm

rogruth wrote:
webenda wrote:
rogruth wrote:How do you do that?

What, get stupid? It is a gift I have. You probably don't have the gift or you wouldn't ask how to do it. :D

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No how do you ignore updates? They seem to happen automatically when I turn off the computer.

You picked automatic update install. It’s somewhere in your settings. You can change it at anytime.
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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby chuck » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:09 pm

On 10 it was very hard to disable. The default setting is automatic and if it requires a reboot, tough luck. I had more complaints about this than anything else.

Red Hat Enterprise had a great tool for managing updates. I think we had 20+ systems scattered across multiple buildings and even campuses. I could schedule installs, control reboots, notify users.

Microsoft got draconian because lack of applying updates was how systems were getting compromised. Of course having so many holes did not help. :)
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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby Mitch » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:13 pm

When I booted up a little while ago, I got the dreaded Microsoft message that the computer was gonna get an update and will require a reboot. It's something about Windows 10 not being supported after November unless updated now. In my settings, it's gonna do it in the middle of the night. I despise that message: We have an update that's gonna make your computer better! Yeah, right! What's really going to happen is that in the morning, before work, at least 2 things that worked perfectly before the update are not going to work at all.
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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby rogruth » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:37 pm

Mitch wrote:When I booted up a little while ago, I got the dreaded Microsoft message that the computer was gonna get an update and will require a reboot. It's something about Windows 10 not being supported after November unless updated now. In my settings, it's gonna do it in the middle of the night. I despise that message: We have an update that's gonna make your computer better! Yeah, right! What's really going to happen is that in the morning, before work, at least 2 things that worked perfectly before the update are not going to work at all.

Or you now have something you never wanted that does work.
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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:12 pm

rogruth wrote:
Mitch wrote:When I booted up a little while ago, I got the dreaded Microsoft message that the computer was gonna get an update and will require a reboot. It's something about Windows 10 not being supported after November unless updated now. In my settings, it's gonna do it in the middle of the night. I despise that message: We have an update that's gonna make your computer better! Yeah, right! What's really going to happen is that in the morning, before work, at least 2 things that worked perfectly before the update are not going to work at all.


Or you now have something you never wanted that does work.


Now that result is the one you really want to avoid! :wink: :wink:
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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby E7 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:10 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rogruth wrote:
Mitch wrote:When I booted up a little while ago, I got the dreaded Microsoft message that the computer was gonna get an update and will require a reboot. It's something about Windows 10 not being supported after November unless updated now. In my settings, it's gonna do it in the middle of the night. I despise that message: We have an update that's gonna make your computer better! Yeah, right! What's really going to happen is that in the morning, before work, at least 2 things that worked perfectly before the update are not going to work at all.


Or you now have something you never wanted that does work.


Now that result is the one you really want to avoid! :wink: :wink:


I don't think I ever recall an update that made anything 'better'. I got a "student" discount to buy MS Office which updates rendered useless. Downloaded Open Office to make things useable.

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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:10 pm

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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby J. S. Bach » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:52 pm

E7 wrote:Downloaded Open Office to make things useable.

I have been running Apache now for many years; besides being freeware, the thing actually works with no hassles. Upgrades are painless and do what is advertised. The same with Firefox and Thunderbird.

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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

Postby E7 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:51 pm

J. S. Bach wrote:
E7 wrote:Downloaded Open Office to make things useable.

I have been running Apache now for many years; besides being freeware, the thing actually works with no hassles. Upgrades are painless and do what is advertised. The same with Firefox and Thunderbird.


Open Office is also freeware.

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Re: Questions on train forums I wouldn't think of asking.

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