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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:27 am

Oh. It was the "tourism" part of my inquiry that got to you. Forgetting about where I placed that word in the sentence (which has significance), it seemed a possibility because there are folks who can get into such places for a photo-moment. It's an actual possibility "in the wide world of sports" and recreation. However, I was giving you the respect of suggesting, first, that you had posed for that picture because you belonged there, as a former or present employee; perhaps, even as a former or recent engineer.

That's all. It was that simple. Either you had experience at being there or you were pretending to as a tourist.

And regarding my appearance in my avatar, you may conclude anything you like. I would only suggest you don't make a fool of yourself by assuming you know me because of a hat and beads, just like I did not assume I knew you were full of yourself because you presented yourself as Big. I figured, you had your reasons which were not my business. But even if you do assume all sorts of wonders because of my appearance inmy photo from the early 70's, you may conclude that I had fun and that it is fun for me to share it here and now. Anything else you might imagine = hohum.

All this fuss from such a simple question. Now you have me wondering what the "Big" may actually be referring to.

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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby Big Jim » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:28 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Oh. It was the "tourism" part of my inquiry that got to you. Forgetting about where I placed that word in the sentence (which has significance), it seemed a possibility because there are folks who can get into such places for a photo-moment. It's an actual possibility "in the wide world of sports" and recreation. However, I was giving you the respect of suggesting, first, that you had posed for that picture because you belonged there, as a former or present employee; perhaps, even as a former or recent engineer.

That's all. It was that simple. Either you had experience at being there or you were pretending to as a tourist.

And regarding my appearance in my avatar, you may conclude anything you like. I would only suggest you don't make a fool of yourself by assuming you know me because of a hat and beads, just like I did not assume I knew you were full of yourself because you presented yourself as Big. I figured, you had your reasons which were not my business. But even if you do assume all sorts of wonders because of my appearance inmy photo from the early 70's, you may conclude that I had fun and that it is fun for me to share it here and now. Anything else you might imagine = hohum.

All this fuss from such a simple question. Now you have me wondering what the "Big" may actually be referring to.

Have a super, big day.
Yours truly,
Bead Boy (aka) :mrgreen:

So, you are upset that my name is Big Jim? WOW! Talk about making a fool of oneself! You better go look in the mirror.
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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:55 am

By asking a question about the man in the window. Ooopps, my bad. You win.

So would you like to share with us how it felt to be at the helm of a locomotive ? I should imagine it would have been complicated and challenging . I can almost imagine the feeling of power and responsibility of it all, though.

Be well and safe, always.

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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby Big Jim » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:59 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:So would you like to share with us how it felt to be at the helm of a locomotive ? I should imagine it would have been complicated and challenging . I can almost imagine the feeling of power and responsibility of it all, though.

Be well and safe, always.

Murph

Working on the railroad was a lot of things. A lot depended on what you were doing at the time. Hanging around trying to get out or in the yard could be boring and frustrating. The same with waiting to make a meet on a train. It was challenging when having to solve switching problems or getting particularly "cheeky" trains over the road. It was most satisfying when you accomplished those tasks. It was beautiful to see the scenery day or night and through the changing seasons. It was fun and nothing like what most railfans have perceived it to be. I came in at the end of one era and lasted through the end of the next. And I'm glad it happened to me. Things have changed since I retired. They were changing before then too. So, things worked out for the best. I couldn't work under today's regime.

People will comment on forums that they wouldn't have my job. That's OK, I wouldn't have traded places with anyone for the man in the moon.
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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:14 pm

I can see why youi treasure that photo. It is one heavy position to have been in.

I have the impression in my mind that it must have been very, very hot in that compartment, in a steam locomotive.

When you wrote that you "...came in at the end of one era and lasted through the end of the next," were you referring to the transitional period between steam and diesel?

We saw a lot of both passing in and out of the steel mills throughout the Pittsburgh area, when I was a boy, and gradually became aware that the steam era had been coming to a close. In fact, I can recall, very clearly, one day, when my father took me, as a 9 yr. old, up onto a hill in the McKeesport (?) area to climb up a small hill to peer over. Below us was a yard full of steam locomotives, some even without tenders, but all were headed toward or being shuttled, under their own steam (pun intended,) or by being shoved, toward a conglomeration of buildings that, my father said, were taking them in as scrap and melting them. We got out of there pretty quickly, after about 10-15min. because we were not supposed to be there in the first place, and I was getting upset seeing all those steam engines going to their deaths.

Besides being able to reach out and touch slowly passing locomotives as they crossed the main shopping street, Fifth Avenue, in front of a popular candy store, and entered National Tube, U.S. Steel mill, in McKeesport, PA, that is my strongest memory of steam engines in real life.

You also wrote, "I'm glad it happened to me." If you like, would you tell us more about that?
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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby rogruth » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:05 pm

Big Jim,
Now you have answered the question. Yes, you were a real railroader and added information that,IMHO, shows that you were very proud of it.
Like Murph, I, and I am sure others on this forum, would like to hear more about your days on the railroad. When I was a child I would get as
close as I was allowed to be and looked up at the man running the train with awe.
More please.
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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby Roy » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:45 pm

So Roger, what's your closest relation to full-time railroad work?
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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby rogruth » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:18 pm

Roy wrote:So Roger, what's your closest relation to full-time railroad work?

I answered that in the first post in this topic.
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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby robert. » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:46 pm

I always wanted to work for a railroad. At the same time i always feared working for a corporate world. If i had some punk arse foreman pushing all day long I'd snap.
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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby Big Jim » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:34 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:I have the impression in my mind that it must have very, very hot in that compartment, in a steam locomotive.

I was fortunate enough to be on the 611 on the only trip it made up my way. I was surprised that it wasn't all that hot. Of course we had all of the windows and the back open and I wasn't standing in front of an open firebox door!

When you wrote that you "...came in at the end of one era and lasted through the end of the next," were you referring to the transitional period between steam and diesel?

Steam was well gone. However, there were a lot of ALCO RS-11's and GP9's still around. There were even some of the VGN Train Masters floating around, but, I never got a chance to run one. RATS!!! Reporting for work, I would see four ALCO T6's humping a cut of coal and have what looked like jet exhaust flames blowing out of their stacks. Then newer types of locos replaced the older units as the years passed by, all the way through the ES44. The N&W turned into NS and that's when things started going downhill. The Company family turned into Corporate greed and that is where they are at today.

Besides being able to reach out and touch slowly passing locomotives as they crossed the main shopping street, Fifth Avenue, in front of a popular candy store, and entered National Tube, U.S. Steel mill, in McKeesport, PA, that is my strongest memory of steam engines in real life.
That was an interesting picture. I used to have the great Howard Fogg print of the B&O ALCO FA units, but, it somehow got lost in the shuffle.

You also wrote, "I'm glad it happened to me." If you like, would you tell us more about that?
Well, I started on the road as a brakeman and worked my way up to conductor and engineer learning railroading the right way. I had good teachers and I learned all of the skills. It just happened that my territory had a little bit of everything to offer as far as terrain went. If one could run an engine on "The Valley", he could run one anywhere. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time!
Before I left, the new recruits just out of school in McDonough, Ga. didn't even know how to hold a lantern properly! Then there was the way the Corp. treated the new hires. It made me sick! Satellite "Hall Monitors" came to be, computers started telling you how to run the train and railroading went out the door!

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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby rogruth » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:28 am

Big Jim,
I had some of this about NS but didn't want to believe it. Now I do. Thank you.
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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby Big Jim » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:27 pm

One other thing about the heat. There were times on the diesel that the heat would just suck all of the life out of you!

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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:40 pm

Big Jim wrote:One other thing about the heat. There were times on the diesel that the heat would just suck all of the life out of you!

I've often wondered if being near the center of the inside of a GG1 was hot for the crew.

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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:48 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Big Jim wrote:One other thing about the heat. There were times on the diesel that the heat would just suck all of the life out of you!

I've often wondered if being near the center of the inside of a GG1 was hot for the crew.


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Re: Full time railroad workers

Postby FWD 1979 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:18 pm

Big Jim wrote:One other thing about the heat. There were times on the diesel that the heat would just suck all of the life out of you!

I hear you Big Jim. When I hired out in 1979 we were still using cabooses and they could get real hot in the Texas summers when the wind didn't blow and we were sitting in a siding. You could almost bake a cake in the cupola!!!! And of course, there were no "comfort cabs" on the EMD SD 40's and GE U-boats.

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