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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:29 am

Continuing the absurd suggestion of Americans returning to someplace-or-other:

Where would individuals of mixed or dual ethnicities return to? Huh? Huh?

Where would Jewish-Americans return to?

And that's all I have to offer on that topic.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby CWBurfle » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:19 pm


Maybe the next immigration laws should examine everyone's heritage and just deport everyone that cannot trace & prove that they have at least 3-4 generations of birth history in the US. That ought to solve everything!


The only place to deport US Citizens is right back to the USA. Doesn't matter how many generations.

Since the subject of Native Americans has come up. The US government did terrible things to Native Americans, and are continuing to do so today. It's my impression that they just had a bunch of their sacred lands taken way for exploitation.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:31 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Continuing the absurd suggestion of Americans returning to someplace-or-other:

Where would individuals of mixed or dual ethnicities return to? Huh? Huh?

Where would Jewish-Americans return to?

And that's all I have to offer on that topic.


The question is not about returning those that came here years ago when the country was young and viable. The question will be is it economically sustainable for an influx of millions more when we already have a massive homeless problem and jobs that don't pay enough to pay the rent and buy food.

Companies will continue to move manufacturing to slave labor countries and those that remain will produce using automation, robotics and AI.

And the democrats are pushing for medicare and free education for everyone. Sounds great to me. I would just like to see their plan on where the money will come from to pay for it. It is already being stated when Social Security and medicare will be bankrupt. Lets just add millions more to the system and speed up the collapse.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:06 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Continuing the absurd suggestion of Americans returning to someplace-or-other..........


And now you begin to appreciate the absurdity and complexity of immigration.

There are no easy answers and there's plenty of blame to go around drown both parties a multitude of times.

As for Native Americans - they are a clear microcosm example of just how poorly this country can treat people.

We have a gross homeless problem and jobs that don't pay enough to pay the rent and buy food thanks to a constant blind eye denial of the problem, a desire to just blame others for it while doing doing to really address it, and that 99% of the wealth in this country is controlled by people that could change this very quickly were they inclined to do so.

And the democrats are pushing for medicare and free education for everyone. Sounds great to me. I would just like to see their plan on where the money will come from to pay for it. It is already being stated when Social Security and medicare will be bankrupt. Lets just add millions more to the system and speed up the collapse.


That wonderful tax cut won't pay any bills and that funding for the wall that Mexico is paying for that you and I are going to pay for isn't going to help SS or Medicare or anything else like actually following through on infrastructure repairs which would be a real source of jobs and manufacturing of construction materials, etc. Better to waste time and money - that's what Congress does best!
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:22 pm

Well heck, let's just up those taxes so we can continue to be the PIGGY BANK for the rest of the world.

In fiscal year 2014, the U.S. government allocated the following amounts for aid:

Total economic and military assistance: $43.10 billion

Total military assistance: $10.57 billion
Total economic assistance: $32.53 billion

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:47 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Well heck, let's just up those taxes so we can continue to be the PIGGY BANK for the rest of the world.


Not what I was advocating at all. Nor for our own country since we fail on that pretty regularly as well.

In fiscal year 2014, the U.S. government allocated the following amounts for aid:

Total economic and military assistance: $43.10 billion

Total military assistance: $10.57 billion
Total economic assistance: $32.53 billion


And all that needs some serious cutting along with domestic defense spending along with the rest of the Gov't. Just cutting the insane amounts of simple stupid waste would probably put a good dent in funding stuff that would really be used by our own people. Sadly, our own Congress stands in the way of making any progress along these lines - Robert Gates, SecDef tried to cut billions out of the budget that was put there by Congress for items and programs that Defense neither wanted nor needed - he failed. Congress protects all of those assistance programs since whatever it is brings money or jobs back their districts and protecting that gets them re-elected. It doesn't matter which party it is - it's endemic to their existence.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby up148 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:35 pm

You know, it always bugs me when I hear African-American, Jewish Americans, Japanese-American.........you get the point. If everyone is here legally, why aren't all of us just called Americans? I think this country has enough division without throwing in former nationalities. If you're proud to be an American, then why do you describe yourself with a hyphen between where you are now and where you came from. I'm an American. plain and simple. The roots of my great, great, great grandparents isn't important. When they came to this country they became Americans...pure and simple.

We did horrible things to the Native Americans, but when you see how they are doing in Oklahoma now, they're making up for it big time. They own most of the casinos, with more being built each year. And they're in many other very profitable ventures and businesses as well. But, they don't seem to share the wealth with their own kind very well too. Still lots of very poor indians in this state, when the tribes are making tons of money. Not sure how it all works, but there is a ton of money that goes through their hands.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:41 pm

up148 wrote:You know, it always bugs me when I hear African-American, Jewish Americans, Japanese-American.........you get the point. If everyone is here legally, why aren't all of us just called Americans? …

We did horrible things to the Native Americans, ...
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:56 pm

up148 wrote:You know, it always bugs me when I hear African-American, Jewish Americans, Japanese-American......... why aren't all of us just called Americans? …


Everyone has to have their trophy?

I don't know either and I find it also has bugged me for many years. Everyone seems to have to cling to their ancestral identity and are unwilling to become part of the collective?
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:00 pm

Were the African-Americans the first to start the trend? They seemed to do so with definite purpose, in my observation. Some prefer Black, though.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:12 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Congress protects all of those assistance programs since whatever it is brings money or jobs back their districts and protecting that gets them re-elected. It doesn't matter which party it is - it's endemic to their existence.


And that is the way the people want it. That is who they vote for. And you and I know that nothing will ever change. :mrgreen:

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:21 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Were the African-Americans the first to start the trend? They seemed to do so with definite purpose, in my observation. Some prefer Black, though.


The word Negro was adopted from Spanish and Portuguese and first recorded from the mid 16th century. It remained the standard term throughout the 17th–19th centuries and was used by prominent black American campaigners such as W. E. B. DuBois and Booker T. Washington in the early 20th century. Since the Black Power movement of the 1960s, however, when the term black was favoured as the term to express racial pride, Negro (together with related words such as Negress) has dropped out of favour and now seems out of date or even offensive in both British and US English

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:40 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Were the African-Americans the first to start the trend? They seemed to do so with definite purpose, in my observation. Some prefer Black, though.


The word Negro was adopted from Spanish and Portuguese and first recorded from the mid 16th century. It remained the standard term throughout the 17th–19th centuries and was used by prominent black American campaigners such as W. E. B. DuBois and Booker T. Washington in the early 20th century. Since the Black Power movement of the 1960s, however, when the term black was favoured as the term to express racial pride, Negro (together with related words such as Negress) has dropped out of favour and now seems out of date or even offensive in both British and US English

I continue to capitalize the word, Black, though, as a proper sign of resect.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:07 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Were the African-Americans the first to start the trend?


Doubtful.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:09 am

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Congress protects all of those assistance programs since whatever it is brings money or jobs back their districts and protecting that gets them re-elected. It doesn't matter which party it is - it's endemic to their existence.


And that is the way the people want it. That is who they vote for. And you and I know that nothing will ever change. :mrgreen:


Sadly, very sadly, probably true - it's a closed cycle and part of why the most corrupt, greedy, self-serving get re-elected by the some folks that then sit back and criticize others for re-electing officials
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