Finally Made It!

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Re: Finally Made It!

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:38 am

up148 wrote:Sorry, my wording was poor. Robert has it right. They want you to purchase one of their products, with one of your hosted (by them) photos on it. Doesn't seem like a big fee for 18 months of photo hosting.


I thought it perfectly clear and a decent fee for use.......pending the cost of that mug, :wink: :wink:
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Re: Finally Made It!

Postby bob turner » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:18 pm

I bought a set of prints. Six bucks including shipping. Prints were cropped wrong, so I pitched them - but what a bargain! I'll just do that every 18 months until they learn to crop for the image, instead of the aspect ratio.

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Re: Finally Made It!

Postby E7 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:06 pm

Just wondering if you surrender any copyright to the image/images you submit for them to put on mugs or whatever?

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Re: Finally Made It!

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:32 pm

E7 wrote:Just wondering if you surrender any copyright to the image/images you submit for them to put on mugs or whatever?


Copyright is retained by the photographer unless he/she/it explicitly signs that over. That's pretty rare.

What these sites do is in their TOS they generally get a royalty free license. They may use your photos, but you still own them, can delete them, publish them, do whatever you want with them.
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Re: Finally Made It!

Postby bob turner » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:42 pm

That is the way I see it. Here are two excerpts:

You will retain ownership of such User Submitted Materials, and you grant us and our designees a worldwide, non-exclusive, transferable, royalty-free, perpetual irrevocable right and license, with right of sublicense (through multiple tiers), to use, reproduce, distribute (through multiple tiers), create derivative works of and publicly display such User Submitted Materials solely in connection with the production or provision of any product or service you request or to show you how your User Submitted Materials would appear in our products or services. For example, when you place an order for a product, we will prepare, manipulate (if necessary), and transmit the User Submitted Materials for production, packaging and shipment. Similarly, if you want to share a photo book with your friends and family, we will accommodate your request by making your photographs available to your friends and family to download and/or to use and create projects of their own, and to purchase products with those photographs.

While we are not obligated to review User Submitted Materials for copyright or trademark infringement, we are committed to protecting copyrights and trademarks and expect users of our Sites and Apps to do the same. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (the “DMCA”) provides recourse for copyright owners who believe that material appearing on the Internet infringes their rights under U.S. copyright law. It is Shutterfly’s policy, in appropriate circumstances, to terminate the accounts of users who are repeat infringers or are repeatedly charged with infringement.


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Re: Finally Made It!

Postby bob turner » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:48 pm

I personally think that should put you at ease. They also outline the DMCA process for you. I used that process to stop the TCA from using my images without proper attribution.

Sure - there are a lot of charlatans and scam artists out there. Shutterfly is not one of them.

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Re: Finally Made It!

Postby E7 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:56 pm

bob turner wrote:I personally think that should put you at ease.


Not concerned for a nanosecond! Sounds to me that they don't need a copyright as they can pretty much do anything they want with that one piece without one.


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