DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Discuss All Facets of 2-Rail, 1/48 Scale, Model Railroading
User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42014
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:02 pm

gregj410 wrote:
But using birch plywood is probably overkill vs. what's really needed.


It’s only overkill because you didn’t build yours that way.


How mine was built is not remotely relevant.

I used a lot of good straight 1x stock for gridwork and 5/8" plywood where that was needed. Everywhere else was left open for foam and plaster that I can cut into or through easily.

It’s simply an alternative to crooked lumber.


Now that is true.
When we understand that each day isn’t one more day, but one less, we’ll start giving more value to the things that truly matter.

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42014
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:05 pm

Jay Criswell wrote: I bought some yellow pine one time not really knowing about it. It's harder and heavier than the oak I have stashed away. Don't know what the hell I'll ever do with it.


It's great stuff, but it can be hard to work with if you are expecting regular old white pine. Southern Yellow Pine.....somebody would probably take that off your hands these days.
When we understand that each day isn’t one more day, but one less, we’ll start giving more value to the things that truly matter.

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42014
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:14 pm

up148 wrote:Let's face it, trees are a resource that is being used up at a record pace.


When I had my timber cut this year they did a very nice job of being selective and leaving behind all of the smaller trees - really opened up the forest for better growth and management.

They also did not cut my hickory and cherry trees on my request.

I know metal studs aren't very popular and I seldom see them used around here in home construction


Have seen metal stud framework used for layouts - not common but certainly doable.

....but cutting down trees at the rate we are doing it, is going to have severe consequences. They might be considered a renewable resource is time is not factored in.


Does take a sense of conservatory behavior; the timber on my land had not been cut in at least 50 if not 60 years. Probably be another 30-40 years before it might be cut again. The investment in time/money is not for everyone.
When we understand that each day isn’t one more day, but one less, we’ll start giving more value to the things that truly matter.

gregj410
Posts: 2635
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:19 pm
Location: Maryland

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby gregj410 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:35 pm

How mine was built is not remotely relevant.

I used a lot of good straight 1x stock for gridwork and 5/8" plywood where that was needed. Everywhere else was left open for foam and plaster that I can cut into or through easily.


How mine was built is not remotely relevant yet your going to proceed to tell us how you did it :lol: Pics?

User avatar
R.K. Maroon
Posts: 3109
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:20 pm

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby R.K. Maroon » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:02 pm

This is a big change of subject, but I finished editing a video of some action on the club layout and uploaded it to YouTube this evening. I decided to post a link here, as it gives people a chance to see what our layout looks like at the present time -- that is, before the modifications that are in progress. Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t53O8ggqet8&ab_channel=ParadocsMusic

In the first clips, the locomotive (running light) is on the outside main. The later clips show the train operating on the inside main. It is not terribly obvious, but the inside main is incomplete, so that the train has to divert through the yard to complete a circuit. One clip (with the Missouri Pacific F-units) shows the train coming out of the yard and heading back to the mainline. When the new modules are completed, the two mainlines will be complete and run parallel all the way around the layout.

Jim
The link below any photo will display the image full size

User avatar
ScaleCraft
Posts: 6693
Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:15 pm

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:24 pm

Is it my laptop, of does it not come into focus until the last 1/4?
Tried twice!

How did you talk Garberson out of a Q engine?

I like it.

Chassis?
Dave....gone by invitation

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42014
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:54 am

R.K. Maroon wrote:T..........I finished editing a video of some action on the club layout and uploaded it to YouTube this evening. I decided to post a link here, as it gives people a chance to see what our layout looks like at the present time -- that is, before the modifications that are in progress.


Nice! Thanks for posting it.
When we understand that each day isn’t one more day, but one less, we’ll start giving more value to the things that truly matter.

sleepmac
Posts: 641
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:10 pm

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby sleepmac » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:01 am

Very nice video! Thank you

Dan Weinhold

User avatar
R.K. Maroon
Posts: 3109
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:20 pm

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby R.K. Maroon » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:56 pm

Last week I posted a photo of a module frame with its foamboard deck installed and marked for routing. We use a plunge router and a one-inch straight bit to do the routing, which we did at our work session this last Saturday. It took two of us about two hours to get all six foamboard decks routed:

Image

There is a 3x3 array of straight cuts in the middle of the deck, each about six inches long. These allow wire to pass under the side-to-side support stringers that will be added later (You can see them in a previous photo of a built module posted a week or two ago). The four shorter straight channels in the middle area are for looming the module-to-module interconnect cables when the modules are in their transport cases. The connectors on the end of the cables slide into these pockets and are held in by the stringers. The four even-shorter pockets on the left edge are for clamps we used to hang a curtain around the layout at the train shows. Finally, the pair of big pockets at the top are for access to the bolts used to join the modules. These are routed with the straight bit and then beveled my hand with a hot-wire cutter.

The foamboard is ready to be glued in, but we're going to wait to do a fit check of the module frames to the existing layout before proceeding. We'll be taking the layout down soon to go to the local January train show, so we'll do the fit check as the layout goes down (or back up).

Building the new legs is next.
Jim
The link below any photo will display the image full size

gregj410
Posts: 2635
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:19 pm
Location: Maryland

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby gregj410 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:17 am

Nice neat work! I’ve never routed foam though I’m sure there is very little resistance. Are those free hand routed? They look very straight.

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42014
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:02 am

Neatly done.
When we understand that each day isn’t one more day, but one less, we’ll start giving more value to the things that truly matter.

up148
Posts: 4652
Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:52 am

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby up148 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:17 am

How messy is routing this type of dense foam?

User avatar
R.K. Maroon
Posts: 3109
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:20 pm

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby R.K. Maroon » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:56 pm

gregj410 wrote:Are those free hand routed? They look very straight.

Yes, we marked a centerline to follow, but they are otherwise free-hand. The direction of rotation of the cutter bit is such that the router wants to drift right if you pull the router towards you and left if you push it away. You learn, after a curved cut or two, to anticipate this and counter it.

up148 wrote:How messy is routing this type of dense foam?

It generates a lot of sawdust. This is why you want a second hand. One person routed, while the other manned the shop vacuum (two of them, actually). You still get some dust but its not bad at all. We did it indoors and the dust did not spread far.

Jim
The link below any photo will display the image full size

up148
Posts: 4652
Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:52 am

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby up148 » Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:59 am

It generates a lot of sawdust. This is why you want a second hand. One person routed, while the other manned the shop vacuum (two of them, actually). You still get some dust but its not bad at all. We did it indoors and the dust did not spread far.


Thanks Jim. Expected answer, but with a good shop vac and help (plus masks) it is very doable. I'm impressed to say the least. Some of the cleanest modules I've ever seen.

User avatar
R.K. Maroon
Posts: 3109
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:20 pm

Re: DFW Portable Layouts -- Mainline and Traction

Postby R.K. Maroon » Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:05 pm

Thanks for the kind words, Butch. We have learned a lot over the years, and our design and process improved every time we built a new set of modules. Now we know what we wished we knew when we started. And so it goes.

The next step is to assemble the legs, which are comprised of a pair of 2x2s and two 3/4" plywood panels. We assemble these with the leg in place -- that is, attached to one of its two mating modules. We do this so to ensure that the deck height is correct:

Image

The plywood came from a built-in entertainment center that was removed in a remodeling project at the house. It has an oak veneer and was in good shape, so there was no way that was going in the dumpster. Glad to have a chance to use it.

Jim
The link below any photo will display the image full size


Return to “O-Gauge, 2-Rail, Model Railroading”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 71 guests