up148 wrote:........ temps rise enough to compromise the electrical grid or ???
The temperature window for flora and fauna is surprising small.
up148 wrote:........ temps rise enough to compromise the electrical grid or ???
HONDO74 wrote:Looks like the multi trillion dollar infrastructure bill is going to butt heads with that UN report. No way to build new roads and bridges without increasing carbon output. And if we are going to go all electric. they better figure out how they are going to produce all the electricity that will ne needed.
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:HONDO74 wrote:Looks like the multi trillion dollar infrastructure bill is going to butt heads with that UN report. No way to build new roads and bridges without increasing carbon output. And if we are going to go all electric. they better figure out how they are going to produce all the electricity that will ne needed.
Turn the midwest into a solar farm...
HONDO74 wrote:Rufus T. Firefly wrote:HONDO74 wrote:Looks like the multi trillion dollar infrastructure bill is going to butt heads with that UN report. No way to build new roads and bridges without increasing carbon output. And if we are going to go all electric. they better figure out how they are going to produce all the electricity that will ne needed.
Turn the midwest into a solar farm...
I think we are working on it. In an area not to far from me, Nixa Mo. they put in a solar farm. There is a power sub station across the road from it that they tied into. Works great.... Except the people in the area are complaining about their electric rates going up. Somebody has to pay for it.
Most of my electricity comes from Table Rock dam. Some of it comes from a power plant in Springfield that converted from coal to natural gas 10 years ago. Used to see coal trains coming through my town from Wyoming. None now, Just container trains loaded with crap coming through from China going to the east.
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:We grew up with glass and those mostly had deposits. We can go back to that - why not?
If people want to do away with plastic, fine. Suck it up and use glass, and either charge a deposit or collect the glass for recycling - we already do the latter.
HONDO74 wrote:Energy costs are rising worldwide........
In the United States, the average retail cost of a gallon of gas is at a seven-year high............
up148 wrote:We've been in the mid to upper $3.00 range for the high octane gas for many, many months. We always seem to be at the higher range for gasoline prices around the country, yet Oklahoma produces a tremendous about of oil and natural gas. I thought that would qualify us for better fuel prices, but it doesn't and I once read the oil extracted in OK is a very good quality "sweet" oil and is exported to Japan. Seems the refineries aren't set up for oil this good and it takes more $$$ to refine it. Never looked into this as the answer would most likely just p*ss me off.
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