Coronavirus:

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Rufus, I noticed the Clemson QB. It sure didn't seem like such a good idea.

I was stunned that he was there but then he has been very outspoken about playing football was the only reason he's there...a clear self-serving person that the NFL might think twice about.

Others,
I'd have gained some respect for Biden if he'd have told his crowd to at least "spread the hell out," or something. With people out gathering in the streets, I can see why others would at least be scratching their heads viewing the inconsistencies in words and actions. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a hoax.

Democrats seem to observe best practices when it is convenient to them so I'm a little perturbed at hearing their lectures. Republicans are full on which isn't any better.

Agree. Completely off message w/o some sort of statement to that effect; I'm not seeing many w/o masks in the street that are not Trump supporters which goes to your point of being full on deniers of reality. 220k dead and climbing - go tell the families that their dead are a hoax. Next 2 months could be very bad.

[bob turner]

Martin could be right. It is looking grim. I sort of wish my airport buddies were correct, an that this thing disappeared on Nov 4. But alas, it got worse.

Did you notice the correlation between the vote and the places it is hitting hardest?

[gregj410]

Did you notice the correlation between the vote and the places it is hitting hardest?

So we should look for a spike in Wilmington based on that theory

[HONDO74]

AP FACT CHECK: Biden distorts Trump’s words on virus ‘hoax’
https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... 7c34549da2

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is presenting a distorted account of President Donald Trump’s words on the coronavirus, wrongly suggesting Trump branded the virus a hoax.

In fact, Trump pronounced Democratic criticism of his pandemic response a hoax.

Biden tweeted a video mashup of Trump’s rhetoric on the crisis, sampling the many times the president has underplayed the severity of the pandemic.

A look:

BIDEN VIDEO: “Trump in public: ‘Hoax.’ Trump in private: ‘Killer.’”

BIDEN VIDEO, showing Trump saying at a Feb. 28 campaign rally in South Carolina: “The coronavirus — and this is their new hoax.”

THE FACTS: The accusation and the selective video editing are misleading. At the rally featured in the video, Trump actually said the phrases “the coronavirus” and “this is their new hoax” at separate points. Although his meaning is difficult to discern, the broader context of his words shows he was railing against Democrats for their denunciations of his administration’s coronavirus response.

“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus,” he said. “You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it.” He meandered briefly to the subject of the messy Democratic primary in Iowa, then the Russia investigation before returning to the pandemic. “They tried the impeachment hoax. ... And this is their new hoax.”

Asked at a news conference the next day to clarify his remarks, Trump made clear he was not referring to the coronavirus itself as a hoax.

But that never stopped all the retarded progressive liberals from repeating what their retarded new clown president was saying.

Washington DC is still the same CIRCUS. Just different CLOWNS in control.

[rogruth]

I had a short visit to Walmart this morning and was pleasantly surprised to see everybody using masks.
I was not in all parts of the store so did not see all.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I had a short visit to Walmart this morning and was pleasantly surprised to see everybody using masks.
I was not in all parts of the store so did not see all.

Good that some folks have a grip in reality.

[robert.]

Friday afternoon i hit the local indoor mall. That place is half empty and void of shoppers. What I found interesting is. 3/4 of the open businesses are making reservations. You can schedule a December shopping time. They will contact you 1 day before your appointment and a half hour before. Both calls must be answered or your time slot goes to another person. Several store managers feel they will be out of business by march or in a new location.

[HONDO74]

I had a short visit to Walmart this morning and was pleasantly surprised to see everybody using masks.
I was not in all parts of the store so did not see all.

Same here at my local Walmart this morning. in the unsophisticated rural hillbilly redneck, gun toting, bible thumping southwest Missouri

[HONDO74]

Several store managers feel they will be out of business by march or in a new location.

The corporation that owns most of the malls in this country is in bankruptcy. J C Penny's is their biggest client and they are in bankruptcy. This was going to happen even without the virus. Most people have switched to online buying

[robert.]

Spg simon property is still paying a dividend.

[HONDO74]

Spg simon property is still paying a dividend.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/06/ ... d-cut.aspx

i do hope they all survive Otherwise too many people are going to lose their jobs

[Rufus T. Firefly]

This was going to happen even without the virus.

We knew that over a year ago when we were discussing here the demise of the big malls.....and in some ways then the rebirth of their replacement with mixed use developments with stores along the street on the 1st floor and condos/apartments 2-6 floors up. That's gotten rather popular around here with $800k condos and neighboring townhouses.

Most people have switched to online buying

That has exacerbated and accelerated the pace in which the big malls were dying. Yet, in spite of that they continue to build mega-malls like the American Dream one in NJ.

[robert.]

Mixed use will reinvent Simon properties. After they get rid of stores. They'll build 5 story condos on their grounds. Add farmer's markets organic shopping and small private movie theaters. 10,000 people will inhabit a renovated mall. On their 37th birthday. they will gather to run in circles and chant " Renew renew "

[Chris Webster]

Deadmalls.com

That website has been around since at least 2001.

[HONDO74]

This was going to happen even without the virus.

We knew that over a year ago when we were discussing here the demise of the big malls.....and in some ways then the rebirth of their replacement with mixed use developments with stores along the street on the 1st floor and condos/apartments 2-6 floors up. That's gotten rather popular around here with $800k condos and neighboring townhouses.

Most people have switched to online buying

That has exacerbated and accelerated the pace in which the big malls were dying. Yet, in spite of that they continue to build mega-malls like the American Dream one in NJ.

New Jersey’s American Dream
By Matt Hickman • July 2, 2020 • Development, East, News
https://www.archpaper.com/2020/07/the-f ... ream-mall/

Then the coronavirus pandemic hit.

Now, it’s now unclear when the previously opened parts of American Dream will return. It’s also unclear when other areas beyond the 8 percent of the mall that opened in October will debut. This includes many of the mall’s stores and eateries, which were on the verge of opening when the mall was temporarily shuttered in March. As reported by NJ.com, tenants including Forever 21, Victoria’s Secret, and the Children’s Place could vacate before opening. Meanwhile, supplement purveyor GNC has announced it will close numerous stores across the Garden State, including a yet-to-open one at American Dream, as part of a bankruptcy protection plan. CMX Cinemas, which was on tap to open a major outpost at the mall, also filed for Chapter 11 earlier this year. (Two major planned tenants, Barney’s and Lord & Taylor went belly-up before the pandemic; while not officially gone, the latter plans to liquidate its surviving stores after they reopen.)