Coronavirus:

[chuck]

Not sure where you heard that, as we watch the WH briefings on C-SPAN every day and he has been saying 60,000 (repeats that # excessively). I believe that # will be low as well, just want to keep the facts straight.

We might reach 60,000 by this Monday or Tuesday. We're at ~52,300 right now with ~2,000 deaths/day.

[up148]

Not sure where you heard that, as we watch the WH briefings on C-SPAN every day and he has been saying 60,000 (repeats that # excessively). I believe that # will be low as well, just want to keep the facts straight.

We might reach 60,000 by this Monday or Tuesday. We're at ~52,300 right now with ~2,000 deaths/day.

Agreed, and I don't expect it to stop there. Trump stated he is trying to maintain a positive attitude and outlook, for as leader of the country he is supposed to be that way to bolster the people. Back in the beginning of April, this country was absolutely freaking, out as can be attested by the bare grocery shelves. Today, people have settled down and you can pretty much find what you want, including toilet paper.

[bob turner]

One encouraging thing is the death rate is now linear, not exponential. It will blow through 60,000 in four days with a 2,000 daily increase, but had it kept going at 7% per day, it would have blown through 100,000 in a week!

One interesting thing is that the death count around 50-52,000 (cdc and Johns-Hopkins numbers) are regarded by some as bogus. One poster on another forum said they were off by two orders of magnitude. And I have at least one friend who adheres to the 5G EMF theory. The subject is fascinating to me, quite apart from its potential deadliness.

Let's hope the growth stays linear, or slows down. And don't drink Clorox. Stick with Jack Daniels.

[HONDO74]

Going back to Feb 9th of this thread.

By Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:10 pm
HONDO74 wrote:
As the world focuses on coronavirus, a deadly flu has killed at least 10,000 Americans
https://news.yahoo.com/m/fac49add-a94d- ... es-on.html

As usual, not in context.

Yes. Happens every year and a lot of it could be prevented. Not unlike a lot of preventable deaths in this country that we shrug off as "acceptable".

Just under 10 million cases - .01% death rate. Might want to think about that to put it all in context

Coronavirus looks to be ~2% death rate - with 10 million cases, well, you do the math.

Question.......
Is everyone dying presently from the virus and not the flu. Or is it all being lumped together.
Do they have a test for the flu that is different than for the virus.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Do they have a test for the flu that is different than for the virus.

Yes, they can tell the 2 apart.

[bob turner]

A lot of misinformation out there. The usual sources - major networks, newspapers, news magazines - have been declared by the President of the United States as”fake news,” so some segments of society rely on sources that, in days past, we would consider unreliable.

Some of those sources actually state they are affiliated with “Stanford”, or “Stanfurd.” A quick check with the California University of that name has cleared some of that up. Choose your sources carefully.

[HONDO74]

Too many people today rely on social media for their news and they believe what they read and them we have what is called mainstream media that presents opinion as reality. They all have an agenda.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Too many people today rely on social media for their news and they believe what they read and them we have what is called mainstream media that presents opinion as reality. They all have an agenda.

A lot believe what they are told and fail to do any thinking whatsoever

[chuck]

A lot believe what they are told and fail to do any thinking whatsoever

I feel it's worse than that. You only look for what you already believe. You have little or no desire for real information, you are just looking for affirmation. You cherry pick the facts to match your opinions. Instead of basing your opinions on facts (all of the facts), you base your "facts" on what are really opinions. Cuts way down on the messy process of thinking/analyzing/evaluating.

[bob turner]

I tuned in late. I take it real information has been referenced here? I have seen only data purported to be from CDC and Johns Hopkins, as re-reported in the media. Always happy to check out sources I have not yet considered.

[HONDO74]

I tuned in late. I take it real information has been referenced here? I have seen only data purported to be from CDC and Johns Hopkins, as re-reported in the media. Always happy to check out sources I have not yet considered.

You can find a lot of useful info on the BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news

However when it comes to politics I think they are still upset with us because we are not a part of their monarchy..

[HONDO74]

CDC adds six new possible coronavirus symptoms
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-adds-s ... 020-04-25/

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has added six new symptoms to its list of possible signs of the coronavirus. Previously, the CDC only noted fever, cough and shortness of breath as symptoms.

The agency has updated its list to include: chills, repeated shaking with chills, muscle pain, headache, sore throat and new loss of taste or smell. Shortness of breath has also been changed to "shortness of breath or difficulty breathing." The full list now is:

Fever
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Chills
Repeated shaking with chills
Muscle pain
Headache
Sore throat
New loss of taste or smell

A runny nose rarely occurs with COVID-19, and sneezing is still not a symptom of the virus.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Thank you for that valuable information, HONDO.
I've sneezed once or twice over the past couple days, with a little occasional moisture in the nose, but I think that is due to pollen. I feel strong and comfortable, and just walked my 2+mi today by extending it to 3mi.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

.........but I think that is due to pollen.

Allergies are hitting a lot of people now......

[Rufus T. Firefly]