Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby rogruth » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:12 am

I think I see 5 bridges in that picture.
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby E7 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:17 pm

How many beers did it take to get 5? :mrgreen:

I count 5, with only 1 that resembles the Hellgate. That and a buck will get you coffee.

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby rogruth » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:41 pm

E7 wrote:How many beers did it take to get 5? :mrgreen:

I count 5, with only 1 that resembles the Hellgate. That and a buck will get you coffee.

Not the coffee my daughters drink. :roll: :roll:
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby E7 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:35 pm

We can make it Jim Beam or shots of tequila, but it will be more than a buck. :wink:

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:57 am

Stumbled onto this photo/illustration while looking through 1912 issues of the Railway Age Gazette...thought it interesting:

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These cars were designed to be used on a P&LE line between McKeesport and Beaver Falls, Pa. Built by the General Electric Company at Schenectady, N.Y., with a trailer built by Wason Manufacturing Company of Springfield, Mass. The car body was built by J. G. Brill Company of Philadelphia. At 42' 6" in length, weighs 36 tons and seats 42 passengers. The trailer car seats an additional 74 people.

"The motor car is equipped with two GE-205, 600 volt motors of 100 h. p. each; they are of the commutating pole type and are also governed by shunt field control. This auxiliary method of control assures greatly increased operating efficiency through uniform saving of power."

Would make a great model.

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby E7 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:48 pm

What in particular did you find interesting. I like the general look of it and think it interesting that it has a trailer. surprised there wasn't more of that, but then maybe traffic didn't warrant it that often???

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:23 am

Sort of a mini-Doodlebug, with it and it’s “trailer” presumably designed/built to handle tighter curve/grade combinations.

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:41 pm

healey36 wrote:Sort of a mini-Doodlebug, with it and it’s “trailer” presumably designed/built to handle tighter curve/grade combinations.


Interesting; if some other plans might be found it would be a fun build. Front end is curved but what radius? Can't quite make out the side frames on the trucks. Built by Brill so wandering through my book on Brill might help.

Curious how high both appear to sit as well over the trucks; flood waters expected?
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:52 pm

Unfortunately the article didn't include any line drawings. Frequently Railway Age did, but not in this case. :(

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:56 am

Might be something buildable using the old ICC parts. Those paired window units look close to what one of the ICC parts looked like....

Believe I'll save this info and take a look into my stash of ICC parts to see how doable this just might be for a future project. Given the queue, that might come round sometime in the 2030's, :wink: :wink:
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby rogruth » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:19 pm

Rufus,
It has been sometime since we have seen your layout.
In chance of seeing it in the next six months or so?

Ny layout left MTJ in a purge a while back and nothing has changed so I have not reposted it.
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:39 pm

rogruth wrote:Rufus,
It has been sometime since we have seen your layout.
In chance of seeing it in the next six months or so?


Not in print, :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe I can scrounge together a few scenes........

Ny layout left MTJ in a purge a while back and nothing has changed so I have not reposted it.


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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:25 am

Pittsburgh's Smithfield Street bridge, May, 1974, from the southwest portal. This was roughly a year before my first ever trip to Pittsburgh:

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A photo by Jack Boucher for the HAER (Historic American Engineering Record), courtesy of the Library of Congress.

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby rogruth » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:21 am

I crossed that bridge ( when I came to it ) several times many years ago.
It was distinctive in its look for that area as I remember.
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:44 pm

The bridge fascinates me. According to the Wik, it's a lenticular truss, designed by Gustav Lindenthal and built between 1881 and 1883:

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Its lines remind me just a bit of Brunel's Royal Albert railroad bridge in Cornwall. It too is a lenticular iron truss, although of a considerably higher elevation:

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Brunel's was built such that Royal Navy sailing ships could pass beneath it...the Smithfield Street bridge probably only had coal barges and the attending tugs to contend with.

Brunel's is more than two decades older, yet remains in rail service to the current day. It's a remarkable bit of engineering.

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