The Erie-Built
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bob turner
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Doing it myself, with some help from a fellow forum member. The strange thing is that I cannot come close to a broadside picture of the cursive font. I have a reasonably good "Hiawatha" which I copied from a hobby shop logo - I may have to struggle with a trial and error approach, even with all this magic photoshop/rotate etc. software. I am not at all sure the models I have seen match the prototype photos, so others have run into this problem before I tackled it.
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Jay Criswell
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The drives are built. Now it's time for electrical...wipers, DCC, sound, etc. Not looking forward to making the wiper mounts.
Jay
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- R.K. Maroon
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Thanks for posting those photos, Jay. I am sure I am not the only when that always finds your drive work interesting and admirable (to say the least) -- One phrase that comes to mind is "kluge free". Mounting the motors high is an interesting approach -- I would not have thought there was sufficient room under the hoods, but I obviously would have been wrong. My brother has a Penn-Erie GE U33B with a unique "box frame" chassis that goes way up under the hood. I thought I had a photo of it but I don't. All sorts of interesting things out there.
Jim
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Jay Criswell
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Jim,
!/8" to spare!
Primary reason, the models will be weighted heavily and I wanted as many teeth as possible, on the smaller pulley, engaged. May not seem like a big deal but the more teeth engaged the better. Geometry comes into play. The alternative was a wider set of pulleys and belts on the motor tower. May still have to go that way.
Jay
!/8" to spare!
Primary reason, the models will be weighted heavily and I wanted as many teeth as possible, on the smaller pulley, engaged. May not seem like a big deal but the more teeth engaged the better. Geometry comes into play. The alternative was a wider set of pulleys and belts on the motor tower. May still have to go that way.
Jay
- R.K. Maroon
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I hadn't really noticed the oversize pulleys -- thanks for pointing those out. Since this is in the "low speed" part of the drive that must mean that the belt forces (and bearing loads) are a good bit higher than what a other towers see. This is especially true since one tower drives all the axles. As an aside, the early CLW and All Nation drives had towers at both trucks, which would lower wear on the tower gears (or delrin chain and sprockets). For cost savings they both eventually offered a one-tower version. I don't have any data on which is more reliable but I know how I would bet. At any rate, with higher loads I can see why you would do what you could to get more teeth engaged between the belt and the pulleys.
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R.K. Maroon wrote:I hadn't really noticed the oversize pulleys -- thanks for pointing those out. Since this is in the "low speed" part of the drive that must mean that the belt forces (and bearing loads) are a good bit higher than what a other towers see. This is especially true since one tower drives all the axles. As an aside, the early CLW and All Nation drives had towers at both trucks, which would lower wear on the tower gears (or delrin chain and sprockets). For cost savings they both eventually offered a one-tower version. I don't have any data on which is more reliable but I know how I would bet. At any rate, with higher loads I can see why you would do what you could to get more teeth engaged between the belt and the pulleys.
Not sure on A-N that single tower was cost savings. I do know to put a front power truck in an F unit nose, they did.
Dave....gone by invitation
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J. S. Bach
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I and Wolf have the perfect train for your engine:Carey Williams wrote:Hello Bob ...yes for cast E7 sides ... ...I have one with bigger side windows than prototypical ... ...
Thank you Cheers Carey
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Jay Criswell
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These are done and ready to be sent home. From there Lee Turner will work his magic. I think I installed one of the fuel tanks backwards...he needs to remove them anyway so he can fix it. Just attached for shipping. May redo the wire management upon their return. Luckily everything he does conceals everything I do. Early UP FMs. I call them B-17s because of their unique windshield. The trailing unit (unpainted one in the photo) will have the shell swapped with one Lee has in hand. No photos of the lead or B unit. He has them already. Maybe we can talk Norm into a video when they're done.
Jay
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Two questions, Jay --
I would guess that the black pieces are speakers for the sound system. Correct?
Second, do they mount under the radiator fan openings or up in the cab? I would guess the former but thought it best to ask.
Jim
I would guess that the black pieces are speakers for the sound system. Correct?
Second, do they mount under the radiator fan openings or up in the cab? I would guess the former but thought it best to ask.
Jim
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Jay Criswell
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Jim,
Yes, Tang Band speakers. I wanted to go larger but NB installed a bunch of lead weights in the sides of the bodies so I was limited on space.
Yes again, they are directly under, and beside all the openings. The cab is in front of the flywheel. Matter of fact, the front truck tower only clears the cab floor by maybe .030".
Yes, Tang Band speakers. I wanted to go larger but NB installed a bunch of lead weights in the sides of the bodies so I was limited on space.
Yes again, they are directly under, and beside all the openings. The cab is in front of the flywheel. Matter of fact, the front truck tower only clears the cab floor by maybe .030".
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bob turner
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Bump: Callie Graphics has shipped the final iteration of the stick-on cugar band. I should have a photo soon - looking for a little light under the June Gloom. Next will be handrails and windows. Castings are drilled for handrails, so all I have to do is bend and plug. But windows I hate! I will give it a shot. But the next photos will have neither.
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bob turner
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Here we go - let me see if I can arrange the shots so you can see both versions, with the final version last. I will be filing off some rivets to avoid the ridge, and struggling with the doorway, but I am pretty much happy! Jim helped immeasurably - I need to get his and Maroon's copies in the mail tomorrow. That silver is honest-to-gosh chrome! It really stands out !
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Jay Criswell
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Gene did a nice little write, with photos, on his blog.
https://myp48.wordpress.com/2019/06/25/ ... m-jhshrb2M
Jay
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Jay
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Jay, thank you for posting Gene's URL. I'm now a subscriber of his blog!
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bob turner
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Thanks. Did not know about the height change. Finding out about that ridge on the roof saved my project from the scrap bin, I think.
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