THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:57 pm

robert. wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Give them all a rake and send them to CA to clean up the forests.

Unions won’t allow it.


Have them all join Common Laborer's Union, pay dues, collect taxes and put them to work. I use to hold a card for that.

I did it for a few years between schools and summers and every break to earn a bit of money to pay bills. Give everybody a rake and shovel and put their lazy asses to work. If they want to be here, put them to work. Maybe we can even get a few citizens off their asses too.
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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby up148 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:41 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Give them all a rake and send them to CA to clean up the forests.

Unions won’t allow it.


Have them all join Common Laborer's Union, pay dues, collect taxes and put them to work. I use to hold a card for that.

I did it for a few years between schools and summers and every break to earn a bit of money to pay bills. Give everybody a rake and shovel and put their lazy asses to work. If they want to be here, put them to work. Maybe we can even get a few citizens off their asses too.


Kaa -Pow &^%$#(*&^%%. That was me falling out of my chair and hitting the floor......... :lol: :lol: You go guy.........IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII like it! :D

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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:02 pm

up148 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:Unions won’t allow it.


Have them all join Common Laborer's Union, pay dues, collect taxes and put them to work. I use to hold a card for that.

I did it for a few years between schools and summers and every break to earn a bit of money to pay bills. Give everybody a rake and shovel and put their lazy asses to work. If they want to be here, put them to work. Maybe we can even get a few citizens off their asses too.


Kaa -Pow &^%$#(*&^%%. That was me falling out of my chair and hitting the floor......... :lol: :lol: You go guy.........IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII like it! :D


Well, guess what..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've held manual labor jobs (1st job I ever had was spliting wood for $10/cord loaded on the truck) and did some others for several years. And I may be over-educated by some folk's silly guesstimation, but when construction work of any kind had to be done around my labs, I did it myself or in hand with the guys - get dirty and get it done now! Ok, I hate but can do plumbing :twisted: , but I'm fine doing my own carpentry, roofing, painting, and electrical work. Nice weather today so I was cutting up logs in the back yard with the chain saw. Figured it was time to get back on that horse after I nicked myself a month ago. Still have to split the pile but that's for working out tomorrow's frustrations - cheaper than a health club, too!

I'm just tired of everyone sitting around whining about whatever, pointing fingers, wringing their hands, and blaming whoever. Want to make this country great (not again since it always has been....) - put up or shut up, stop being a lazy, fat ***, get up and do your part of whatever needs doing, and get over yourselves (ok, that's channeling my daughter the counseling psychologist, :lol: :lol: :lol:). She's a hard one....
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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby up148 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:17 pm

I'm with ya!!!!!!!!!! I never expected someone to do something I couldn't or wouldn't do myself. At 70 the manual labor is getting harder and harder, but I love it.

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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:21 pm

up148 wrote:I'm with ya!!!!!!!!!! I never expected someone to do something I couldn't or wouldn't do myself. At 70 the manual labor is getting harder and harder, but I love it.


You do what you can....... There's something satisfying about a concrete achievement, getting something done that you can see. I shuffle more a few mountains of paper about, but just getting outside and into the garden and then into the wood pile just makes me feels better. I've got a bit of an interior wall that needs some attention where I installed a section of barn wood in it for my wife. Something shrunk down since the install and I need to attend to that - the electrical and plumbing behind it was a bear........

They want in - hand then a shovel and tell them to earn it. Same story on the pan-handlers and chronic unemployed (the lazy....)....give them and shovel and a rake to get a cot and 3 hots.
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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:19 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:(ok, that's channeling my daughter the counseling psychologist, :lol: :lol: :lol:). She's a hard one....


Amazing we have the same situation. My daughter is not a psychologist but her degree is in that area, Her counseling is mostly with drug addicts in Wichita. :mrgreen:

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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:30 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
They want in - hand then a shovel and tell them to earn it. Same story on the pan-handlers and chronic unemployed (the lazy....)....give them and shovel and a rake to get a cot and 3 hots.


While I agree with you about this, it's not going to happen. The welfare system is too well ingrained in this country and is not going to change. You don't expect those women and children to use a rake and shovel do you.

Mexico offered these people asylum, jobs and medical care, A few decided to stay but the vast majority want into Calif. Why not, they know that Calif will provide for them.

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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:45 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
They want in - hand then a shovel and tell them to earn it. Same story on the pan-handlers and chronic unemployed (the lazy....)....give them and shovel and a rake to get a cot and 3 hots.


While I agree with you about this, it's not going to happen. The welfare system is too well ingrained in this country and is not going to change. You don't expect those women and children to use a rake and shovel do you.


How many Amish do you know? Kids (12-13 year olds) out driving 3 horse hitches in the field all by themselves.....and helping me cut wood. If those kids can do it, why not theirs? Oh, the poor little dears....... Why not our own for that matter that have their faces glued to a smart phone. We've grown so soft as to deserve a good butt kicking.

Mexico offered these people asylum, jobs and medical care, A few decided to stay but the vast majority want into Calif. Why not, they know that Calif will provide for them.


I wonder what they would do if they knew that had to show up for a job every day and actually work for a living?

I wonder what would happen if our own citizens actually had to work for a living?
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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby up148 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:31 am

Saw an interesting segment on Newshour last night that applies here, about people on medicaid who are required to work 80 hours a month, since the Trump Administration made changes to the ACA. The segment was about residents of Arkansas, but I'm sure it fits other states as well. Many reason why 12000 people have lost medicaid health benefits in that state, but many (and this was stated by AR government directors) is because they don't want to work. If they have to work, they don't want the health benefits. Doubt if we will ever know the real truth, but if people are able to work and contribute I think they should or lose more than healthcare.

Another segment covered migrant attorneys (US lawyers) meeting with the Caravan people in Tijuana to advise them of their rights as migrants and give them guidance to get in the country. What the h*ll is up with that? Illegal immigrants have no rights! Why do/have most of us bust our *ss to work, build a life, pay our taxes, etc., so some smart*ss bleeding heart attorney can advise lawbreakers how to get into our country? :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby rex desilets » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:14 pm

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers".

Richard III, Shakespeare
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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:23 pm

rex desilets wrote:"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers".

Richard III, Shakespeare


Indeed...and look where that got Richard.....looking for a horse.
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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby robert. » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:53 pm

Kill the lawyers. I received an email last month. I’m part of a 50 million dollar class action. It has been settled against several airlines. Layers will receive 30 percent of that. Plus expenses. I will receive nothing. After the lawyers cut. There is not enough left to cover the cost of cutting 200 million checks. Nobody involved in the class action gets anything.
Tell me do these lawyers really care about the good of the people?
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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby E7 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:31 pm

up148 wrote:Another segment covered migrant attorneys (US lawyers) meeting with the Caravan people in Tijuana to advise them of their rights as migrants and give them guidance to get in the country. What the h*ll is up with that? Illegal immigrants have no rights! Why do/have most of us bust our *ss to work, build a life, pay our taxes, etc., so some smart*ss bleeding heart attorney can advise lawbreakers how to get into our country? :shock: :shock: :shock: BH


The lawyers should be tried for conspiracy, and at a minimum disbarred.

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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby robert. » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:31 pm

It would be ironic if Mexico throw the lawyers in prison. Get them for working without a permit.
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Re: THE CARAVAN OF CRAP

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:46 pm

up148 wrote:Saw an interesting segment on Newshour last night that applies here, about people on medicaid who are required to work 80 hours a month, since the Trump Administration made changes to the ACA. The segment was about residents of Arkansas, but I'm sure it fits other states as well. Many reason why 12000 people have lost medicaid health benefits in that state, but many (and this was stated by AR government directors) is because they don't want to work. If they have to work, they don't want the health benefits. Doubt if we will ever know the real truth, but if people are able to work and contribute I think they should or lose more than healthcare.


If fits lots of states. Put them out at the side of the road and pick up the trash. Give them a rake and shovel and ship them to CA.

Another segment covered migrant attorneys (US lawyers) meeting with the Caravan people in Tijuana to advise them of their rights as migrants and give them guidance to get in the country. What the h*ll is up with that? Illegal immigrants have no rights!


Well, maybe or not - they do have the right to request asylum and the country has granted that to "immigrants" for many decades. The problem then is they all request asylum and then the system to validate that claim collapses under the numbers of applicants since the system has been gutted and defunded for decades now by every administration looking for something to cut. Sort of like the USDA inspectors that we don't have and every year have all these cases of food poisoning - Here, have a little salmonella with that turkey on Thursday.
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