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Re: Statements

Postby webenda » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:50 pm

Roy wrote:How many of these Birds in Space did Brancusi make, in the twenty-whatever years he was working on them? And, are they more Statements, or Whatzits?

Sixteen examples of the Bird in Space (L’Oiseau dans l’espace, 1923–40) sequence, dating from 1923 to 1940, have been identified. Prior to Bird in Space he made the Golden Bird series (fatter birds than the space birds.)
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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:15 pm

webenda wrote:
Roy wrote:How many of these Birds in Space did Brancusi make, in the twenty-whatever years he was working on them? And, are they more Statements, or Whatzits?

Sixteen examples of the Bird in Space (L’Oiseau dans l’espace, 1923–40) sequence, dating from 1923 to 1940, have been identified. Prior to Bird in Space he made the Golden Bird series (fatter birds than the space birds.)

A visit to a site, "The Art Story Modern Art Insight," provided me with further thoughts on Brancusi's Bird in Space, which I really appreciated because the comments were describing what I had thought all along and found gratifying to see explained in print by somebody else:

The sculptures:
+"... reduced forms and reveal hidden truths."
+"...exemplify ideal and archetypal representations..."
+ [Brancusi] "...dispenses with the bird's physical attributes, focusing instead on capturing the essence of flight, suggesting a bird's swift upward movement."

It is that last comment that meant the most to me because it states exactly what I had interpreted when first seeing the sculpture, totally uneducated about Brancusi and unprepared when first seeing his work, having had, therefore, no preconceived notions about the piece.

P.S. HI Rex, I am disappointed (but, alas, not the least bit sorry) that such musings by me and their attendant conversations vex you so much, so I suggest, most respectfully, that you: (a) read nothing further by me, jus' scroll on by, when you catch first-sight of my hat and scarf, avatar, so you don't work yourself into a sweat over my twaddle, remembering and quoting yourself to yourself, "Who gives a flying f??? " (b) Go work on a model instead. :D

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Re: Statements

Postby healey36 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:13 pm

An appreciation of modern art...Duchamp's "Nude Descending a Staircase No. 2":

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The New York Times referred to it as "an explosion in a shingle factory".

I can see that.

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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:47 pm

It feels weird, but I do not have any reaction at all to that piece. I kept looking and still got nothing, which for me is a statement in itself (!) I'm very curious to read what others might have to say.
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Re: Statements

Postby webenda » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:45 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:It feels weird, but I do not have any reaction at all to that piece. I kept looking and still got nothing, which for me is a statement in itself (!) I'm very curious to read what others might have to say.
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I thought of Eadweard Muybridge/Nude Descending Stairs.

Do you want to feel a reaction to art? Take a look at this display in Rotterdam’s Museum Boijmans van Beuningen:
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Re: Statements

Postby Roy » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:41 pm

Kind of looks like a duck, with the skin of a potato.
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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:47 pm

I'm reminded of sweet potatoes. :?

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Re: Statements

Postby webenda » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:43 am

Sweet potatoes!? You guys are not "feeling" it.
Next time you finish No. 2 on the toilet, turn around and take a look at the art you just produced.
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Re: Statements

Postby robert. » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:21 am

Look up Robert ryman’s White canvas
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Re: Statements

Postby Roy » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:29 am

The kids running around the giga-shit in the photos aren't wearing "naked suits". Supposedly, visitors are provided with these: "...Now, the sculptures rest on Persian rugs and are stared at by visitors wearing naked suits featuring various shapes and sizes of male and female sexual parts.

For Gantner, the naked suits are “a gift to visitors” that enhance the exhibition and their own experience of it.

“You step into the costume and you immediately transform into another being. People don’t know anymore what your job is, if you’re rich, poor, male or female, so you forget a little bit about all these rules.”

“This exhibition has a big chance of being seen and people wake up the next morning thinking ‘Oh My God, this show was so great, I really want to see that shit again.’ Or maybe even the next time you’re in the toilet, you'll think about the exhibition, I mean how great is that?” Gantner said."

I don't know about shit as art, but it is something we have to deal with, collectively. I think we'll find more value to our shit, the more we look for it.
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Re: Statements

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:46 am

A couple of the readers comments from the article. :mrgreen:

"it is not art, it is "Hampart", a very good definition invented by art professor Antonio Garcia Villaran. Something that is not art, anyone can do, and it is meaningless and that gains attention and value just because it is exposed".

"Useless pseudo-culture, usually financed by the taxpayers, promoted by the leftist media, in order to destroy normality and decency".
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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:50 am

webenda wrote:Sweet potatoes!? You guys are not "feeling" it.
Next time you finish No. 2 on the toilet, turn around and take a look at the art you just produced.
https://www.euronews.com/2018/06/08/the ... -is-not-s-

Oh, I "felt it," first off. I just didn't want to say it here. Honestly. In fact, I was thinking Brontosaurus statement.
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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:55 am

Roy wrote:...I don't know about shit as art, but it is something we have to deal with, collectively. I think we'll find more value to our shit, the more we look for it.

And we certainly will have no problem finding plenty of it, literally and figuratively. We cannot step out the front door without walking into a pile of it, sooner or later, one way or another, one type or form or another, one theater or another.

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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:59 am

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Postby chuck » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:33 am

There are a number of those slide shows with the before and after pictures. It's not limited to women either, several male celebrities have butchered their faces as well. Initial reaction is "What were you thinking?" You either get old or you die. If they can't stand looking "mature" then they should have hired a special effects make up artist to come up with with latex appliances that would be closer to their original look. This butchery is insane. It reminds me of the Zemekis black comedy, Death becomes her.
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