The invasion of Europe

[Roy]

A big part of the international flight problem is that there are countries where one group is making life a living hell for others. We should go there, and help remove that problem. I gather this applies to Honduras, as well as to some West African countries.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I've heard on more than a few sources that concern about Muslims/ Isis having an ongoing plot to de-Christian-ize Europe by immigrating and gradually taking over every aspect of life there is growing among Europeans.

Ask the citizens of the UK. We have several long time customers over there and they have nothing but negatives to say about their muslim population. You want to see a group who will not assimilate at all, it's Muslims.

And these customers are not outspoken and mouthy (like me) about being against Muslims, they just state the facts and tell me the news. There are areas of Muslim populations in the UK where police don't patrol, because it's too dangerous. Now London has a Muslim mayor. They are taking over the UK just like some other countries in Europe.

BH

I appreciate your verifying what I had heard. Since you are there,connected to the scene in the UK, I will conclude that you know of what you speak, which helps confirm what I have also heard is being attempted in the USA. Talk among Americans is growing that Muslims and ISIS synthesizers are using The Constitution, especially its Bill of Rights, to furtively wend their way into being a majority, or, at least, possessed of enough legal - elected - authority to begin (further?) the goal of de-Christian-izing the USA, eventually, too. All very (somewhat?) subtle, but nonetheless, happening, as we converse.

[up148]

I know I will be accused of xenophobia with my comments ( I really don't care) but these people have been trying to conquer and change the world to their beliefs and religion for a millennia. I know you can't pigeon hole everyone of a certain nationality into one group. But, I have a real problem with trust and motive when it comes to muslims. Their track records in Europe sucks in my opinion. They can be quite and friendly about it but when you really sit and talk to them ( I really have) they are driven and "Inshallah" they will accomplish this task.

BH

[HONDO74]

Gaddafi said: "We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."

Britain and Europe need to stop Muslim immigration, as their census predicts the country will be about 50% Muslim mid-century. Last year Mohammed was the #1 boys baby name in Britain. Wait until all of those Mohammed's grow up and can vote in 20 years. Will Sharia Law become the law of Britain?

Consider the recent detailed study British Muslims in Numbers, undertaken by the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB). This study shows that Britain’s Muslim population (including Scotland and N. Ireland) grew from 1·6 million in 2001 to almost 2·8 million on census day 2011. That represents an almost seventy-five percent increase over a ten year period, an “unprecedented” population growth according to Prof David Voas of Essex University.

Here's the stats on projected Muslim growth in Britain by the MCB: 2021 - 4.9 million Muslims 2031 - 8.6 million Muslims 2041 - 15 million Muslims 2051 - 26 million Muslims 2061 - 48 million Muslims? 26 million Muslims in Britain by 2051 will be about 40 - 50% of Britain's population. 48 million Muslims out of 65 million Brits in 2061 will be about 2/3 of the population. By the end of the century Muslims will dominate Britain with their birth rates.

What will happen when Muslims can decide elections in Britain? Muslims now decide 25% of the elections in Great Britain. They just elected a Muslim mayor of London. And how will they keep their radical Muslim brothers out who like to blow up concerts, airports, subways, antiquities and hate Western art and architecture as we saw in Manchester, Syria, Paris and Brussels recently? Will they blow up the Houses of Parliament, Buckingham Palace, the Cathedrals, the Castles like Highclere Castle (Downton Abbey), and Oxford and Cambridge Universities?

Britain and Europe are importing the violence, strife, racism, homophobia and subjugation of women and gays in Muslim countries around the world to lovely Britain and Europe. The Muslims have been fighting each other for centuries, and will continue to create millions of refugees. Set up safe zones under the U.N. in Muslim countries for them. Muslims say they want to establish a caliphate in Europe, Britain and the U.S. Muslim refugees should go to Muslim countries. No more Muslim immigration unless you want the U.S., Britain and Europe to be Muslim dominant in this century.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Gaddafi said: "We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades." ....

When someone shows you who they are, believe them - the first time.

I believed him.
And I believe you.
Case closed, as far as I am concerned. Or rather, case OPENED. Wide.

And it is prettydam brave of you to have stated what you did here, altogether (I only quoted part of it, for now) HONDO.

I would also add that it is pretty cool that we were able and allowed to explore this topic with such a minimum of rancor or disagreement or BSness. It appears we have all been paying attention out there.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Everybody knows that the Vatican and Pope Francis have been targeted, as well as Notre Dame Cathedral, Paris. And I personally spoke to an Archbishop, of Afghanistan who, along with his whole diocese's neighborhood was driven out of his country, and given 24 hrs to do so, allowed to carry nothing with them. He visited our parish to tell his story and theirs.

[up148]

Cockroaches in my book and just as hard to exterminate.

BH

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Gaddafi said: "We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades." ....

Gaddafi was crazier than most and last I looked was still dead along with a whole lot of others including Gen. Francisco Franco.

50 million -- love to know where he made that number up. Probably 99+% of them just want a safe place to live w/o crazy people trying to kill them just like everyone else in the world.

Signs? More than likely hallucinations from that nutter.

[G3750]

Gaddafi said: "We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades." ....

Gaddafi was crazier than most and last I looked was still dead along with a whole lot of others including Gen. Francisco Franco.

50 million -- love to know where he made that number up. Probably 99+% of them just want a safe place to live w/o crazy people trying to kill them just like everyone else in the world.

Signs? More than likely hallucinations from that nutter.

Regardless of the state of Quadaffi's mind, the number of Muslims in Europe is troubling. England and France are having their elections affected by folks who don't wish to assimilate in their host nations. A world wide caliphate is the stated objective of radical Islam. Perhaps (I don't believe it) the peaceful immigrants percentage is as high as 99%, but it only takes a militant 1% to destabilize a nation.

The Obama / Clinton / Kerry foreign policy disasters of the past 8 years destabilized Iraq (withdrawing on an announced time-table, seriously?), Egypt, and Libya. The so-called "Arab Spring" gave the so-called ISIS "JV team" a huge power vacuum which it filled with hate and violence. To wit:

• Much of Iraq had to be re-taken after much American blood had been spilled.
• Egypt overthrew Mubarik and then was restored to normal (at least non-ISIS) rule 18 months later.
• Libya deposed Quadaffi (who had basically complied with US requests for the past 10 years), creating a spawning ground for ISIS terrorists. Witness Benghazi.

The result of the above was the creation of over 1,000,000 Arab refugees from the region (at least some of whom were ISIS sleeper agents). They overwhelmed Europe, which was not prepared for their influx.

A nation without borders ceases to be a nation.

George

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Profound, George. You certainly do your homework.

[G3750]

Profound, George. You certainly do your homework.

Thank you, Frank.

[Tom Dempsey]

The Obama / Clinton / Kerry foreign policy disasters of the past 8 years destabilized Iraq (withdrawing on an announced time-table, seriously?), Egypt, and Libya.George

You're right of course, George, that invasion during the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld administration couldn't have possibly had any effect on a garden spot like Iraq. And, we know that a nine year Iraqi war with Iran just preceding it certainly didn't affect the area at all, now did it. Damn those Democrats!

[HONDO74]

Damn those Democrats!

58% of Democratic senators (29 of 50) voted for the resolution. Those voting for the resolution were:
Sens. Baucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Biden (D-DE), Breaux (D-LA), Cantwell (D-WA), Carnahan (D-MO), Carper (D-DE), Cleland (D-GA), Clinton (D-NY), Daschle (D-SD), Dodd (D-CT), Dorgan (D-ND), Edwards (D-NC), Feinstein (D-CA), Harkin (D-IA), Hollings (D-SC), Johnson (D-SD), Kerry (D-MA), Kohl (D-WI), Landrieu (D-LA), Lieberman (D-CT), Lincoln (D-AR), Miller (D-GA), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Reid (D-NV), Rockefeller (D-WV), Schumer (D-NY) and Torricelli (D-NJ).

Obama couldn't vote at the time but he said he was against it. But he didn't learn anything from it because he took out Gaddafi and tried to take out Assad in Syria. We all should have learned by now that we can't solve all this worlds problem by eliminating dictators. There are too many of them. Leave them alone and let them kill each other, that has been going on for hundreds of years....

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Let me ask, because I have wondered about this for some time, who or what force bestowed upon us, the USA, the prerogative to be the defenders and police of everybody else deemed worthy of our military force throughout the entire world? And when did the American people get asked to pay for it, one episode at a time.

And why are we - the USA - sending "truck-loads" (hyperbole) of cash to countries like Iran , Iraq , and Afghanistan ? Or have I been misinformed and/or insufficiently attentive and focused during the News on TV? (BH: "The crooks in those countries take the money and run.")



(OK, let me have it. I can take it. Promise. )

[robert.]

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who or what force bestowed upon us, the USA, the prerogative to be the defenders and police of everybody else deemed worthy of our military force throughout the entire world?