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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:40 am

Washington, D. C., February 16, 1958:

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The sweeper leads the way; Constitution Avenue and 7th Street, in front of the FTC Building.

Courtesy of the U. S. Library of Congress.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:18 pm

Interesting photo. Don't see any poles up or any overhead wire for that matter....
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Postby healey36 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:22 pm

I was under the impression that much of the D. C. system operated on a third rail (as in the photo Jim K. posted a couple pages back).

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:22 pm

healey36 wrote:I was under the impression that much of the D. C. system operated on a third rail (as in the photo Jim K. posted a couple pages back).


Yes, but there is a pole on the sweeper, and I'm not sure that it would not be under the wire to clear the track and that third rail for those PCC cars. Maybe one of those pushes the sweeper when needed?
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Postby healey36 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:08 am

Yeah, I don't know; I just presumed the sweeper could draw from the 3rd-rail, only requiring the pole in areas without the under-pavement rail.

Trolleys on Woodward Avenue in Detroit, sometime in the first decade of the last century:

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Kinda makes me want to go out and wax the snow-shovel.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:16 am

healey36 wrote:Kinda makes me want to go out and wax the snow-shovel.


Errr...............................no. :mrgreen:
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:43 pm

Not a trolley but a tram line in Milan....

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Postby Jim K » Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:03 pm

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Chicago around 1908...................

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Postby healey36 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:01 am

Turnouts and the associated third-rail configurations are always interesting on these elevated lines.

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Postby Jim K » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:56 pm

Quite a little testimony! Jim K

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:11 am

Now if I could only get those patterned wheelsets in my Q-car drive of that truck!!!
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Chris Webster » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:42 pm

healey36 wrote:I was under the impression that much of the D. C. system operated on a third rail (as in the photo Jim K. posted a couple pages back).

Within the city, DC's streetcars were like slot cars - they got their power from a slot in the middle of the rails. The 3rd rail was actually underground and "plows" ran atop that underground rail - the slot in the street was used to get the power from the plow up to the streetcar. In the suburbs, the streetcars switched to overheard wire. There are some pictures of the slot car like track attached to this wikipedia article: Streetcars in Washington, D.C.

Some modern streetcars around the world have a center 3rd rail that is at ground level - that 3rd rail is divided into sections and power only switches on when the street car is directly above that segment.

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:31 pm

Thanks, Chris; that largely confirms my understanding of power for the DC system. I've seen photos of cars out around Glen Echo that are running on overhead.

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:45 pm

So the sweeper cleared the rails and center power access, but what cleared the rails and center access for the sweeper?
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