Lionel Pennsylvania Raymond Loewy K-4

[v8vega]

Ad in a Jan. 94 Model Railroader. They were going to make 500 and cost $2,500 each. Did they make them? Did they sell? Just curious.
Also in this issue is a feature on a 26" x 60 " HO layout with hand laid track and switches. Plus he researched it and it's represents a area of the Erie.
I've been wanting to comment on large finished complex layouts, I figure these guys must work on them 40 hours a week for years and work on them like their on a job with a employer. I've been working on mine off and on for years and it's far from done. And mine isn't real big.

[chuck]

The engine was part of the 'Smithsonian Collection" and they were hand made brass by Kohs. Two rail only. K-4 complements the Dreyfus Hudson and there were matching brass cars as well (20th Century for NYC and Broadway Limited for PRR). I saw the 20th Century cars on display at CarRail. These were the most detailed passenger cars I have ever seen, full interiors and not just injected molded plastic inserts.

[Chris Webster]

Ad in a Jan. 94 Model Railroader. They were going to make 500 and cost $2,500 each. Did they make them? Did they sell?

There's one on ebay for $995 buy-it-now: Lionel 6-18028 Smithsonian PRR Pennsylvania 4-6-2 #3768 1993 RARE #87 of 300

The engine was part of the 'Smithsonian Collection" and they were hand made brass by Kohs. Two rail only. K-4 complements the Dreyfus Hudson

There are at least two of the Dreyfus Hudsons on ebay right now: Unrunning for $1,026 buy-it-now and another with a minimum bid of $2,565

and there were matching brass cars as well (20th Century for NYC and Broadway Limited for PRR). I saw the 20th Century cars on display at CarRail. These were the most detailed passenger cars I have ever seen, full interiors and not just injected molded plastic inserts.

My understanding --I don't really know for sure-- is that the hudson was made in 2 and 3-rail versions, but the NYC passenger cars were only made as 2-rail versions. The passenger cars are not as common the hudsons, but they do show up on ebay from time-to-time. The cars are spectacular and have full-width diaphragms; unfortunately, the diaphragm material deteriorates over time and there is no easy way to replace them.

I don't know if there was a 3-rail version of the K4 - I've only seen 2-rail versions-- and I don't know if the Broadway cars were actually produced or not.

[E7]

Ad in a Jan. 94 Model Railroader. They were going to make 500 and cost $2,500 each. Did they make them? Did they sell?

There's one on ebay for $995 buy-it-now: Lionel 6-18028 Smithsonian PRR Pennsylvania 4-6-2 #3768 1993 RARE #87 of 300

The engine was part of the 'Smithsonian Collection" and they were hand made brass by Kohs. Two rail only. K-4 complements the Dreyfus Hudson

There are at least two of the Dreyfus Hudsons on ebay right now: Unrunning for $1,026 buy-it-now and another with a minimum bid of $2,565

and there were matching brass cars as well (20th Century for NYC and Broadway Limited for PRR). I saw the 20th Century cars on display at CarRail. These were the most detailed passenger cars I have ever seen, full interiors and not just injected molded plastic inserts.

My understanding --I don't really know for sure-- is that the hudson was made in 2 and 3-rail versions, but the NYC passenger cars were only made as 2-rail versions. The passenger cars are not as common the hudsons, but they do show up on ebay from time-to-time. The cars are spectacular and have full-width diaphragms; unfortunately, the diaphragm material deteriorates over time and there is no easy way to replace them.

I don't know if there was a 3-rail version of the K4 - I've only seen 2-rail versions-- and I don't know if the Broadway cars were actually produced or not.

The Smithsonian locos and cars were imported by Fine Arts Models (Gary Kohs)

The Hudson locos were done in both 2 and 3 rail. The 20th Century cars were all 2 rail.

I have never seen a Smithsonian K4 done in 3 rail.

The Broadway cars were done, but their floor plans were reversed (left to right) from the prototype cars.

That last per Ed Rappe!

I have rarely seen them (Broadway Limited cars) for sale. That makes me think there were far fewer of them made than the NYC 20th Century cars!