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Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby up148 » Thu Apr 30, 2026 8:23 am

This seller has some of the most unique items I've never seen as well as normal items at really cheap prices. He has now list a UP Standard Turbine loco that is not an import and I never, ever heard of this model. Not perfect by any means, but a really good rendition of this loco. Any ideas?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/318212343130?i ... SwgE5p78ws

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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Apr 30, 2026 11:48 am

up148 wrote:This seller has some of the most unique items I've never seen as well as normal items at really cheap prices.


Yes, he does. That turbine is something you just need to spend your free time on, :wink: :wink:
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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby up148 » Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:33 pm

I'm thinking very seriously about it as it is so unique and what has been done is done well. It will never compare with an OMI turbine, but that's not the point now is it? Just keep it.

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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:49 pm

up148 wrote:I'm thinking very seriously about it as it is so unique and what has been done is done well. It will never compare with an OMI turbine, but that's not the point now is it? Just keep it.


Looks like there are several open frame motors in the 2 units. Might have to run a new circuit in with heavier wire just to power it up, :wink: :wink:

But yes, several interesting items listed that I'm keeping an eye on.....like I need more projects (work!) in my shop now. :roll: :roll:
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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby bob turner » Thu Apr 30, 2026 2:01 pm

I hope you get it. I agree - some charm there. A little touch-up paint, remove the outside third pickups, and probably check for insulation? Make a nice museum piece.

I am tempted on a couple freight cars from Ms. Klassen, but I probably have too many as it is. Just this AM I am finishing a Westbrook and a Scalecraft ice car in a perfect shade of reefer orange (A-C enamel from the 1950s).

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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby up148 » Thu Apr 30, 2026 2:51 pm

Make a nice museum piece.


That is exactly what I was thinking. A doorstop (almost) turbine is intriguing to me and it would look cool next to my OMI models. Being 3rd Rail, It looks like it would predate any kits or models I've ever heard of.

One interesting thing for me, is the seller is located in Hydro, OK., only 75 miles from OKC. I never heard of Hydro or Klassen.....but I'm still a newbie to OK. But, if I'm successful, I'll just drive to pick it up if the seller allows it.

As the Joker said about Batman. "Where does he get those wonderful toys?" :D

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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Apr 30, 2026 4:30 pm

up148 wrote:One interesting thing for me, is the seller is located in Hydro, OK., only 75 miles from OKC. I never heard of Hydro or Klassen.....but I'm still a newbie to OK. But, if I'm successful, I'll just drive to pick it up if the seller allows it.


Going there for a visit might be more interesting that the actual purchase!
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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby up148 » Thu Apr 30, 2026 5:21 pm

:D

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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby Pacific Limited » Fri May 01, 2026 8:21 am

It is very nice!
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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby up148 » Sun May 03, 2026 9:37 am

Well, that was a surprise. I was out before I even bid. Looks like a horse race between two bidders who really wanted these items. They certainly saw something I fail to appreciate. :shock:

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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby bob turner » Sun May 03, 2026 1:40 pm

I think the final price was reasonable (under $400 incl. shipping). The workmanship was quite good; there were ten All-Nation-like transmissions (although maybe not insulated) and the EMD B unit looked like it would go well with a CLW A unit, or even maybe an import.

I wonder if Carey picked it up? There was a time when I would have bid in that range - I always liked that version of the turbine.

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Re: Never knew this model existed. Early Japanese?

Postby up148 » Sun May 03, 2026 6:11 pm

I think the models were wonderful and they had a lot going for them to the right buyer. I don't need AN transmissions, but for a collector with models that use them, it was a great opportunity. It all depends on what you model and what you need.

Also, the Standard Turbine WAS a nice rendition of this prototype, but for me it was buying a folly and something I really didn't need and couldn't appreciate.

I did discover the seller's name and he's our age and has been a TCA member and a seller of Lionel trains on EB for decades. He has a good reputation as well.


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