Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

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Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby steamaheadstephen59 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:30 pm

Image Image Image Some cab repairs, dont remember Max Grey/KTM having a back head like this? or brake rigging.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby up148 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:59 am

I've never seen that either. Usually just a cast pot metal back head with limited detail and no brake rigging. The condition of your model is excellent.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby E7 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:12 am

We need to invoke the ghost of Tom Dressler.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby steamaheadstephen59 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:23 pm

The story is that these KTM models came from France, and my theory is that they my have been sold by Fulgurex and recieved upgrades for the European market. I’m guessing thou. They came to Australia as part of an inheritance Around 2005. Theres some paper work but it’s in French and I can’t read it.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby steamaheadstephen59 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:37 pm

I dislike when I duplicate a post!!!
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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby Chris Webster » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:14 pm

steamaheadstephen59 wrote:Theres some paper work but it’s in French and I can’t read it.
Have you tried using google translate on a phone? You aim the phone's camera at the paper and it will try to translate it.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby steamaheadstephen59 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:04 pm

No but I will, its hand written back to the sixties. Im going to see if I can have a friend look at it to, but people are busy, see how it goes. I love a bit of history.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby up148 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:20 am

That is a really cool theory. It definitely has more detailing that a stock MG loco. I've never seen sanding lines coming out from under plates and the detail just looks "more". One of the nicest MG locos I've ever seen, but not familiar with the normal MG NW Mallet either.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby E7 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:38 am

From what I've been reading either Max Gray or Levon Kemalyan (KTM) and built in Japan.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby steamaheadstephen59 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:39 pm

Okay A friend at work is Swiss, and French is here first language, so she read through my material and the in the early sixties the models where modified.The name Teushodo comes up in relation to the AC-4 and the N&W 2-8-8-2 interesting?

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby webenda » Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:07 pm

steamaheadstephen59 wrote:Okay A friend at work is Swiss, and French is here first language, so she read through my material and the in the early sixties the models where modified.The name Teushodo comes up in relation to the AC-4 and the N&W 2-8-8-2 interesting?

Would that be Tenshodo, sometimes Tenshodo PFM?
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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby E7 » Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:33 am

Tenshodo was a BIG Japanese builder known for their "crowns". They did a pile of HO stuff.

Here is a MR article with multiple viewpoints:

https://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/65503.aspx

Suggest you read the whole thing before forming an opinion!

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby E7 » Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:41 pm

steamaheadstephen59 wrote:I dislike when I duplicate a post!!!


You know what they say Stephen: There are 3 signs of OLD AGE: The first is LOSS of Memory, and I forget the other 2! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby Big Jim » Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:38 am

The backhead is completely wrong. No Duplex stokers on a Y6b.

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Re: Norfork & Western 2-8-8-2

Postby up148 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:09 am

Was the cab soldered on or removable with screws? I've found discrepancies with back head detail by all mfgs, including a Sofue built FEF-2 and a PSC Crown BB..............it just seems to be the way they built them.


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