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Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby herronpeter » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:48 pm

......at least there are good pictures of damage you will need to repair after shelling out $3,150.00! It looks to be be a bit more than a 2 minute job.......

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164554144690

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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby up148 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:04 am

I admit, I don't know NYC brass values and KEY is a quality model, but that sounds like way too much money even if it were NIB or mint. Very few brass locos, for any road, are worth than kind of money today. Good Luck to the seller.

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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:20 am

Wonder how many of this exact model were produced?
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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby up148 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:52 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Wonder how many of this exact model were produced?



That is the question. It's still all about the supply & demand, just not as much demand these days and more supply for common items.

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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:56 am

up148 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Wonder how many of this exact model were produced?



That is the question. It's still all about the supply & demand, just not as much demand these days and more supply for common items.


Supply of any new ones is round about zero. So, limited to whatever of this specific model exist. Then factor in the insanity of demand and you might get some really crazy numbers.
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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby up148 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:08 pm

This seller seems to have a problem with the truth, so I don't trust his judgement or his descriptions. Here is a description on another of his auctions. It's obviously been owner weathered, as they don't come like this from PSC. And, he has another one just like it for sale, but a different road and it does look new, so it would be hard to dismiss it as ignorance.

"For auction a gorgeous Woosung Division Point O Scale Brass Union Pacific General Service Gondola F/P. Appears to have little to no use. Excellent like new condition. Box and foam are near pristine. Please see photos for best description. Thanks!"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164627966256?ul_noapp=true

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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:40 pm

up148 wrote:This seller seems to have a problem with the truth, so I don't trust his judgement or his descriptions. Here is a description on another of his auctions. It's obviously been owner weathered, as they don't come like this from PSC. And, he has another one just like it for sale, but a different road and it does look new, so it would be hard to dismiss it as ignorance.


Never underestimate ignorance; far more probable an explanation that anything malicious. A lot of his stuff is also overpriced, but who knows......and it's 99% stuff that I have less than zero interest in selling to an audience that either has too much money available and/or little sense. :roll:

Then again, the boxes of sticks that I might buy are getting surprisingly expensive at times, :wink: :wink:
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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby robert. » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:18 pm

There is some irony in that weathered gondola. Do the exterior and leave the inside pristine.
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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:47 pm

robert. wrote:There is some irony in that weathered gondola. Do the exterior and leave the inside pristine.


Got to fill it up with sugar beets!

But looking again it appears that only 1 side and an end are weathered, and only partially on the other side.

Excellent like new condition............not.

Yet...........lots of bids, :?
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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby J. S. Bach » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:49 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Yet...........lots of bids, :?

But only ten bidders; a couple seem to have done nothing but run up the price.

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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:04 pm

J. S. Bach wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Yet...........lots of bids, :?

But only ten bidders; a couple seem to have done nothing but run up the price.


Bidding minimal increments over and over......nice.........for the seller!

$240 and change and sold to one of those minimal increments over and over bidders.
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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby herronpeter » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:52 am

Ok, I looked it up in Brass Trains Guide. They made 50 of them. Here’s the info I copied out of the sight.

Scale: O
Category: Steam
Subcategory: Non-Articulated
Type: Pacific
Road: New York Central (NYC)
Whyte: 4-6-2
Description: K-3Q
Importer: Key Model Imports (KEY)
Catalog:
MANUFACTURE
Builder: MADE IN KOREA
Year(s): 2002
Qty Made: 50
PRICE
Original MSRP: $3,450.00
Current Price: $2,800.00

Now, I have never seen anyone pay their "current price" on any model I’ve looked up. For example, I have 4 Glacier Park models which their "current price" ranges from 2400 to 2900. I paid less than 2000 for each one. Most of their production quantities were in the 20’s.

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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:51 pm

herronpeter wrote:Qty Made: 50
PRICE
Original MSRP: $3,450.00
Current Price: $2,800.00


Lister's price seems even more inflated given that there is damage to address.

Engine, tender, box foam all in excellent condition.


When does visible damage and repair work counter "excellent condition"? :?
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Re: Here’s a deal and a half........

Postby E7 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:27 pm

It's hardly an Iconic Water Level Route steam engine. Can you say HUDSON? Then Niagara and Mohawk. The damage didn't likely happen sitting in the box. Looks like a fishing expedition to me. 3K, no way.


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