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Ten-coupled Locos

Postby up148 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:47 pm

Back in 1995, I purchased a group of really nice models from a fellow in the UK who owned a hobby shop (Peter Bassett) . Most were either new in the box or very close to new and all from his personal collection, purchased new from the importer over the years. Some were very rare pieces (OMI 350 Ton Coal Tower, KTM-USA FEF-3) while the others were just desirable and hard to find.

No way could I afford to buy all he had, so I brought in some friends and we all picked what we wanted and pooled our funds. Still, we couldn't come close to buying even half of what he had or what we wanted. All prices were about half or less of the current market, so we were all very excited. But, besides the coal tower and the KTM-USA FEF-3, I got a one-of-kind USH 2-10-2 that Peter had worked on for a number of years to make it as close to the prototype as possible.

I entered it in the March Meet model contest the following year (under Peter's' name) and I believe it would have won 1st place, but that year Louis Bartig entered one of his handbuilt masterpieces, so the 2-10-2 came in 2nd. Greg Heier loved it and took several photos and asked me to write an article about it, which I did.....that was in 1996. The article did not appear in print until 2001. Article (not) attached because I don't know how to attach a PDF file.

In 1999, due to a household emergency, I had to sell all my models and decided the most expedient way to do this was to sell to a dealer. Really hated to part with the 2-10-2, but they all had to go. :( :(

That model has haunted me since I let it go and if you read the article you'll understand why. I've wanted it back for almost two decades. It may not be a Kohs, Sofue, Key or C&LS, but what Peter did to this model is truly remarkable.

Fast forward.....two weeks ago while doing a google search for something UP, I saw a link to a thread on OGR for UP loco photos. Decided to take a look-see and it turned out to be on the 3R forum (someplace I never go). The thread was started by a fellow name Will who I've dealt with in the past and who is converting to 2R. There were a lot of nice photos of Mostly 3 rail UP locos submitted by a lot of modelers. But, Will posted a photo of a 2-10-2 that he just picked up at the Jim Seacrest auction. It looked very familiar and too nice to be a stock USH 2-10-2, so I went digging for the OSN article to match up the road numbers.........when I remembered I donated my collection to a club several years back.

So, while trying to figure out how to approach this issue and contain my excitement in case it was another disappointment, I stumble on a complete collection of OSN mags on the Yahoo Yard Sale Forum and bought them. They arrived last Wednesday and I confirmed this was my old 2-10-2. On Thursday, after seeing my article, Will graciously agreed to sell me back my loco and I hope to have it by the end of the week. What a ride...... :D :D :D :D
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Update: The model arrived today and although it needs some TLC; the years haven't been as kind to it as they could have been. But, I have no idea who might have owned it after me and prior to Jim. But, it's home now and staying.

Fully detailed chassis with equalized suspension which includes the custom built pony and trailing trucks, cab and backhead detail with lighted gauges and working reverse gear lever, removable cab, smokebox fully detailed with correct four port UP annular nozzle and flue sheet with pipes, full ashpan detail, both smoke box and headlight doors are hinged and open with correct scratchbuilt hinges, headlight, marker lights and number boards are all illuminated and due to the smokebox interior detail the wiring had to be run through surgical tubing used for the boiler handrails, the wiring runs to the junction box and then branches into flexible surgical tubing that acts as miniature armored cable, the Walschaerts valve gear is fully functional and operated by a small servo motor in the firebox which operates the lever in the cab, plus much, much more.


I'll keep this thread updated as I make repairs and discover items I might have forgotten.

BH
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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby bob turner » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:37 pm

Very nice. Now we need to get Jay to present Si's version.

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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby De Bruin » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:49 pm

What a beauty, WOW. I love that very distinctive UP plain smooth smoke box, "leaning out" as they do over the pilot, the look of it and other like classes, quite of few of them too, I say "collect 'em all." Any chance we get to see that KTM FEF-3 too?
Never get tired of seeing nice steam models as I imagine no else here does either. Congrats on getting it back into the fold.
Thanks for posting!!
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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby GreggL » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:00 pm

Neat story Butch - congrats on getting her back and look forward to you chronicling the restoration.

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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby up148 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:30 am

Thanks Guys, I will post photos and info as it unfolds. I feel like a kid who got what he wanted for Christmas. :D :D :D :D :D I'm really looking forward to "freshening up" this loco.

Pete, I'll take some photos of the FEF and post them this weekend. I needs paint and some touch-up as well, because it's a different FEF than the one I bought from Peter which was a special order unpainted virgin.

BH

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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby webenda » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:34 pm

Butch,

Very impressive model. I could not help but wonder what the three electrical tabs were for on the bottom of the gear box?
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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby bob turner » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:10 pm

Probably PFM sound.

I am wondering how this thing avoids short circuits between driver tires and brake/sander parts? I have to make them out of plastic. I do not believe I have ever tested a model with brass brake shoes that did not short somewhere on a curve.

Those are beautiful, well done parts.

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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby up148 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:39 pm

webenda wrote:Butch,

Very impressive model. I could not help but wonder what the three electrical tabs were for on the bottom of the gear box?


I forgot to mention Wayne, it has working gearbox temp and pressure gauges and those are the leads................ :D :D :D :D

I'm clueless, I haven't seen this model in 18 years and need to get reacquainted this weekend. When I first saw it (again) in these photos I thought maybe something to do with sound pick-up, but that is a strange place to put sound pick up and this loco is not sound equipped.

BH
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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby up148 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:43 pm

bob turner wrote:Probably PFM sound.

I am wondering how this thing avoids short circuits between driver tires and brake/sander parts? I have to make them out of plastic. I do not believe I have ever tested a model with brass brake shoes that did not short somewhere on a curve.

Those are beautiful, well done parts.


I agree about sanders shorting. This photograph is 15 minutes after I took it out of the shipping box as Greg wanted to see it. So, there are a lot of bent items that need to be straightened (maybe resoldered) and corrected. I doubt this model would even run seeing that sander line.

BH

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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby Robert » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:32 pm

You definitely lucked out Butch. I'll enjoy your story of refurbishing this special Locomotive. Take your time, savor the moments.

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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby webenda » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:22 pm

up148 wrote:
webenda wrote:Butch,

Very impressive model. I could not help but wonder what the three electrical tabs were for on the bottom of the gear box?


I forgot to mention Wayne, it has working gearbox temp and pressure gauges and those are the leads................ :D :D :D :D

BH

Are you going to add the lubricant level sensor that goes to the third tab?
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Re: Once lost and now found (Long Story)

Postby bob turner » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:59 pm

Don't let this die. Change the title to "ten-coupled" or "five axle" locomotives. Jay has a USH converted to SP", and I have five SP steam models with five axles.

Did you know the UP 2-10-2 has a strange "walking beam" valve gear?

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Re: Ten-coupled locos

Postby up148 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:09 am

bob turner wrote:Don't let this die. Change the title to "ten-coupled" or "five axle" locomotives. Jay has a USH converted to SP", and I have five SP steam models with five axles.

Did you know the UP 2-10-2 has a strange "walking beam" valve gear?


Done.

Hopefully Jay will see this thread and post some photos. I'd love to see that loco built by Si and I'm sure it will give me some ideas to do to this one. I still have a USH FEF-3 I bought from Si in 2001, after I returned to the hobby. Worth less than half what I paid, now, but was an okay deal at the time........Si was always a fair man to deal with. I acquired a new double stack from MTH (theirs is much nicer) and a bunch of castings from Dennis Mashburn and planned to super-detail it, but once I found the replacement KTM-USA FEF-3, I kinda lost interest.


I didn't know about the walking beam, in fact I don't know what that means. :oops: :oops: :oops: Please educate me. I did order the UPHS book that covers this road number specific 2-10-2 and waiting to compare the model to the real thing.

What I forgot, the 2-10-2 fleet was built and purchased from all three major builders (Alco, Baldwin and Lima) of the day. Different feed water heaters, valve gear, stacks, headlights and other identifying details. Very interesting loco.

BH

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Re: Ten-coupled locos

Postby E7 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:08 pm

up148 wrote:What I forgot, the 2-10-2 fleet was built and purchased from all three major builders (Alco, Baldwin and Lima) of the day. Different feed water heaters, valve gear, stacks, headlights and other identifying details. Very interesting loco. BH


The PRR had some of that. I'm not sure how much the stuff varied from different builders, but it likely did. As they say, variety is the spice of life.

Happy for you that your beloved model has found it's way home!

Mr. Turner, commence firing! :mrgreen:

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Re: Ten-coupled Locos

Postby bob turner » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:52 pm

I will add my ten-coupleds tonight. Yes, Si was very generous. He gave me two Scale Craft box cars one time when I visited, and they might be my favorite freight cars.

The correct terminology is not "walking beam." I shall look it up in a minute.


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