Weathering 101

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Weathering 101

Postby up148 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:26 pm

I know weathering a model is subjective and I personally prefer a nicely weathered model over a brand new shiny loco. But, sometimes I think it is best left to the pros or at least someone who really tries. :roll: :roll: Unless C&GW locos actually looked like this at the end of their life. :shock: :shock: :shock:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brass-O-Orienta ... SwZKBZM2bs

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Re: Weathering 101

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:17 pm

That's pretty hideous; interesting how the fuel tank, etc seem immune to the weather. do sort of like the look of the trucks, but the rest - yeesh!
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Re: Weathering 101

Postby Tom Dempsey » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:46 pm

I've seen some pretty beat looking prototypes over the years, however, it is my opinion that this model represents a failure at prototypical weathering.

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Re: Weathering 101

Postby rrjjf » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:07 pm

Nasty job with spray cans. No sense to it that I can see.

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Re: Weathering 101

Postby big bad jim » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:40 pm

I don't see anywhere in the listing where the seller states or implies that the model is weathered. Unless that detail is part of the description that was edited after the item was listed?

In fact, I find this listing refreshingly straightforward and free of bs, other than possibly the starting bid amount. Shipping is reasonable, and terms are clear and fair.

I do like the part where the seller ships to the whole world, or the US, like we're a separate planet or something. :shock:

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Re: Weathering 101

Postby Seaboard Air Line Fan » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:42 pm

Needs to invest in a can of paint stripper :shock:

I don't see anywhere in the listing where the seller states or implies that the model is weathered.


Maybe he dropped it in a cow pie while taking the photos :lol:
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Re: Weathering 101

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:00 pm

big bad jim wrote:I don't see anywhere in the listing where the seller states or implies that the model is weathered. Unless that detail is part of the description that was edited after the item was listed?




True. But if you see a Model "A" Ford for sale, and they don't describe it as a Model "A" Ford, does that mean since the description does not so state it is not a Model "A" Ford?

Just wondering.
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Re: Weathering 101

Postby big bad jim » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:26 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:
big bad jim wrote:I don't see anywhere in the listing where the seller states or implies that the model is weathered. Unless that detail is part of the description that was edited after the item was listed?




True. But if you see a Model "A" Ford for sale, and they don't describe it as a Model "A" Ford, does that mean since the description does not so state it is not a Model "A" Ford?

Just wondering.
Of course not, but I'm not sure that's an apples to apples comparison. Some things are self evident. Some things are inferred. You could probably identify a Model "A" Ford no matter what its finish was, and probably even if part of it was missing. It has other identifying characteristics. But I don't think there's enough information provided about this model to say whether the finish is a failed attempt at weathering or some other unfortunate turn of events. I think it's a good thing that there is no attempt to create false value by overselling the finish as "weathering".

It's all much ado about nothing.

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Re: Weathering 101

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:55 pm

big bad jim wrote:[Of course not, but I'm not sure that's an apples to apples comparison. Some things are self evident. Some things are inferred. You could probably identify a Model "A" Ford no matter what its finish was, and probably even if part of it was missing. It has other identifying characteristics. But I don't think there's enough information provided about this model to say whether the finish is a failed attempt at weathering or some other unfortunate turn of events. I think it's a good thing that there is no attempt to create false value by overselling the finish as "weathering".

It's all much ado about nothing.


True, true, maybe, okay, true. (not necessarily in that order).
Some Things Are Inferred.
It has identifying characteristics.
It's weathered..badly...but not so described.
Therefore, it is not weathered..but it IS a GP7 Phase 2 of the Chicago Great Western Railway (you can of course tell by the barely discernible logo on the cab side...just above or below the road number (?).
I am particularly entranced by the alignment of the headlights...and the oil stain creeping up the side of the long hood.
Maybe they bought this from the PennCentral?

I don't care. It's (allegedly) brass, don't buy brass unless it's round and .45 diameter.
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Re: Weathering 101

Postby E7 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:25 pm

It's a MESS! opinion :mrgreen:

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Re: Weathering 101

Postby E7 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:27 pm

Tom Dempsey wrote:prototypical weathering.


Sounds like an oxymoron. :D

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Re: Weathering 101

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:27 pm

Maybe it's done that way to emulate the aftermath of being strafed by a flock of geese?
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Re: Weathering 101

Postby bob turner » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:47 pm

Funny what gets you guys participating.

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Re: Weathering 101

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:17 pm

bob turner wrote:Funny what gets you guys participating.


All you have to do is post one of your pictures with a wheel off the track, and we're OFF!
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Re: Weathering 101

Postby Chris Webster » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:32 pm

up148 wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brass-O-Oriental-Limited-GP7-Phase-2-Chicago-Great-Western-Railway-/201945684046?hash=item2f04e6984e:g:gtMAAOSwZKBZM2bs


Are you sure that was attempted weathering? Could it be a bad case of paint flaking, possibly after reacting with the foam it was stored in?


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