The Erie-Built

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby bob turner » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:03 pm

Doing it myself, with some help from a fellow forum member. The strange thing is that I cannot come close to a broadside picture of the cursive font. I have a reasonably good "Hiawatha" which I copied from a hobby shop logo - I may have to struggle with a trial and error approach, even with all this magic photoshop/rotate etc. software. I am not at all sure the models I have seen match the prototype photos, so others have run into this problem before I tackled it.

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby Jay Criswell » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:52 am

The drives are built. Now it's time for electrical...wipers, DCC, sound, etc. Not looking forward to making the wiper mounts.

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby R.K. Maroon » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:00 pm

Thanks for posting those photos, Jay. I am sure I am not the only when that always finds your drive work interesting and admirable (to say the least) -- One phrase that comes to mind is "kluge free". Mounting the motors high is an interesting approach -- I would not have thought there was sufficient room under the hoods, but I obviously would have been wrong. My brother has a Penn-Erie GE U33B with a unique "box frame" chassis that goes way up under the hood. I thought I had a photo of it but I don't. All sorts of interesting things out there.

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby Jay Criswell » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:24 pm

Jim,

!/8" to spare!

Primary reason, the models will be weighted heavily and I wanted as many teeth as possible, on the smaller pulley, engaged. May not seem like a big deal but the more teeth engaged the better. Geometry comes into play. The alternative was a wider set of pulleys and belts on the motor tower. May still have to go that way.

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby R.K. Maroon » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:58 pm

I hadn't really noticed the oversize pulleys -- thanks for pointing those out. Since this is in the "low speed" part of the drive that must mean that the belt forces (and bearing loads) are a good bit higher than what a other towers see. This is especially true since one tower drives all the axles. As an aside, the early CLW and All Nation drives had towers at both trucks, which would lower wear on the tower gears (or delrin chain and sprockets). For cost savings they both eventually offered a one-tower version. I don't have any data on which is more reliable but I know how I would bet. At any rate, with higher loads I can see why you would do what you could to get more teeth engaged between the belt and the pulleys.
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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby ScaleCraft » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:31 pm

R.K. Maroon wrote:I hadn't really noticed the oversize pulleys -- thanks for pointing those out. Since this is in the "low speed" part of the drive that must mean that the belt forces (and bearing loads) are a good bit higher than what a other towers see. This is especially true since one tower drives all the axles. As an aside, the early CLW and All Nation drives had towers at both trucks, which would lower wear on the tower gears (or delrin chain and sprockets). For cost savings they both eventually offered a one-tower version. I don't have any data on which is more reliable but I know how I would bet. At any rate, with higher loads I can see why you would do what you could to get more teeth engaged between the belt and the pulleys.

Not sure on A-N that single tower was cost savings. I do know to put a front power truck in an F unit nose, they did.
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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby J. S. Bach » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:30 pm

Carey Williams wrote:Hello Bob ...yes for cast E7 sides ... ...I have one with bigger side windows than prototypical ... ...

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby Jay Criswell » Fri May 03, 2019 7:30 pm

These are done and ready to be sent home. From there Lee Turner will work his magic. I think I installed one of the fuel tanks backwards...he needs to remove them anyway so he can fix it. Just attached for shipping. May redo the wire management upon their return. Luckily everything he does conceals everything I do. Early UP FMs. I call them B-17s because of their unique windshield. The trailing unit (unpainted one in the photo) will have the shell swapped with one Lee has in hand. No photos of the lead or B unit. He has them already. Maybe we can talk Norm into a video when they're done.

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby R.K. Maroon » Sat May 04, 2019 11:16 am

Two questions, Jay --

I would guess that the black pieces are speakers for the sound system. Correct?

Second, do they mount under the radiator fan openings or up in the cab? I would guess the former but thought it best to ask.

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby Jay Criswell » Sat May 04, 2019 12:26 pm

Jim,

Yes, Tang Band speakers. I wanted to go larger but NB installed a bunch of lead weights in the sides of the bodies so I was limited on space.

Yes again, they are directly under, and beside all the openings. The cab is in front of the flywheel. Matter of fact, the front truck tower only clears the cab floor by maybe .030".

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby bob turner » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:51 pm

Bump: Callie Graphics has shipped the final iteration of the stick-on cugar band. I should have a photo soon - looking for a little light under the June Gloom. Next will be handrails and windows. Castings are drilled for handrails, so all I have to do is bend and plug. But windows I hate! I will give it a shot. But the next photos will have neither.

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby bob turner » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:18 pm

Here we go - let me see if I can arrange the shots so you can see both versions, with the final version last. I will be filing off some rivets to avoid the ridge, and struggling with the doorway, but I am pretty much happy! Jim helped immeasurably - I need to get his and Maroon's copies in the mail tomorrow. That silver is honest-to-gosh chrome! It really stands out !

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby Jay Criswell » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:23 am

Gene did a nice little write, with photos, on his blog.

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby sleepmac » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:47 am

Jay, thank you for posting Gene's URL. I'm now a subscriber of his blog!

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Re: The Erie-Built

Postby bob turner » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:56 pm

Thanks. Did not know about the height change. Finding out about that ridge on the roof saved my project from the scrap bin, I think.


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