1941 City of Los Angeles

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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby Jay Criswell » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:02 pm

Maybe it's time for sealed ball bearings??!!

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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:47 pm

Miniature sealed ball bearings are usually press fit on the axle and in the housing. Not a problem during assembly because you can press on the inner and outer races. Disassembly often damages the bearing.

Of course it does not have to be that way. When I tried roller bearings on my slot car axles I made everything slip fit. Seemed to work fine.

I wonder if any museum display maintenance shops have tried sealed ball bearings?

Here is a list of common sizes for those not doing historically correct restoration: => http://www.nationalprecision.com/miniat ... d_fits.php
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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:06 pm

Wipers. We have experienced with higher current draws pitting of the races when you try to pick up through ball bearings, sealed or naught.
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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:02 pm

Wipers, correct. I like wipers on the back of the wheels where less dirt accumulates.

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But for historic restoration, such as the City of Los Angeles, Maroon is not modifying bearings or wipers, just replacing what is worn.
The original parts might be better than any of our suggestions, originals seem to have lasted a long time.
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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby J. S. Bach » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:07 pm

That looks like an AHM design, maybe the C-Liner?

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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:11 pm

J. S. Bach wrote:That looks like an AHM design, maybe the C-Liner?

Plymouth switcher. I think the mechanism from the C-Liner was used to make these.
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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:13 pm

When you upgrade to sealed ball bearings, then you also do wipers.
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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby J. S. Bach » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:14 pm

I thought that it was a decent design but it needed (needs?) a better motor.

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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby R.K. Maroon » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:34 pm

(In generic Germanic accent):

"Ya, that AHM design shows all the marks of fine Austrian engineering. It's true though that the motor was undersized"
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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby sarge » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:51 pm

Si, butta da AHM wasa de Rivarossi. Atsa Italian, no?

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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby R.K. Maroon » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:01 pm

(again is same accent):

"Ya, so obviously dey had an Austrian engineer vwerking for them. It wuz der cheapskate in purchasing dot bought dot toy mo-ter"
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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby sarge » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:08 pm

Oh, did they now? :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby R.K. Maroon » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:55 pm

Ya, das is myna gestory and ich vill gestooka mit es

The postman brought me some NOS cloth-covered wire this morning for my E6 restoration. This will look sharp.

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So, doesn't anybody have an opinion to venture regarding how much play in the axles and worm shaft is acceptable?

Jim

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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby Jay Criswell » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:12 pm

Jim,

At first glance I thought you'd wised up......looked like det cord to me.

A few caps, some C4, and you're problems would be solved!

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Re: 1941 City of Los Angeles

Postby R.K. Maroon » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:24 pm

Yes, but I'd want to take out the whole closet full of them and go find a hobby that's not so plagued by wise guys.

AND WHAT ABOUT THAT AXLE PLAY?
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