Passenger Cars 2021

[bob turner]

I have now read it multiple times.

There are two ways to read it:

1. Mr. Turner will give you incorrect information tieing Q to 17/64 (no, I won’t).

2. Rich is saying that Q and 17/64 are a Scale (and not a gauge).

[ScaleCraft]

I have now read it multiple times.

There are two ways to read it:

1. Mr. Turner will give you incorrect information tieing Q to 17/64 (no, I won’t).

2. Rich is saying that Q and 17/64 are a Scale (and not a gauge).

But are YOU saying that?

17/64" is a SCALE on 1.25" GAUGE track.
Cronkhite did Q...which is 1/4" SCALE on 1-3/16" GAUGE track.

[R.K. Maroon]

I never responded to Bob's posting regarding K-Line cars:

K-Line on the right.

Here is another K-Line (on the left this time)

There was a table full of new-in-the-box K-Line streamlined cars in Steve Neill's estate. They were held back by Stoutt's Auction from the big estate auction and were listed instead in a later three-rail auction. I didn't study them carefully but they did look pretty good, better than one might expect given K-Line's general perception as just another toy train company. If nothing else, their scale length put them well ahead of the offerings from Weaver and MTH in my book.

Here is the last car in the GM&O heavyweight string:



This is some sort of sleeper-lounge-observation. I haven't found a match in the Walthers catalogs yet, but there are many to search so I am guessing it's there somewhere. Again, I don't know if this is anything close to any real GM&O car (or one from a predecessor railroad), but I am guessing "not". The only open-platform GM&O car found in a quick internet search is a business car. But, there it is, and there it stays.

Jim

[De Bruin]

This car has Exacta embossed copper sides, joined up with common wood components. I would do more of these, but the sides are difficult to find. I had a chance 30 years ago at a meet, and missed the opportunity.

I have what Maroon and I think is an Exacta in the club donation pile, I'll drag it out and shoot a mug shot.

I concur with Jim on Bob's AT&SF coaches, the shape of the punched windows on the Pomona Valley are distinctive, while I like both, Chronkite's cars albeit different are exceptionally nice as they (to me) follow the prototype plans more accurately than the PV's and generally (opinion) look better.

Soooo, how about these American Lightweights? Originally an addition to Ralph Brown’s American Standard line of resin cast heavy weight car kits, this lightweight car model line was later sold to Pete Plunkett in the eighties who proceeded to expand the catalog to offer complete name trains. Not sure about where this line has wound up, last I heard (and that's been a few years) the most recent owner had issues securing production runs for the injection molded roofs. As an obvious fan of the whole genre and this line in particular I wish whomever that is well in their efforts.


I built this guy, post war 44-seat full diner in my "salad" years in the late eighties, to go with my salvage ICC Kitchen-Lounge, alas the two had substantial car-body size differences with Vane Jone's Kitchen-Lounge more approximating a 17/64 car and the ALW a sub-sized model in a slender 1:48 akin to the dinky MTH 70's. Furthermore, I had no appreciation for how weak the ALW Evergreen polystyrene was and the car is fragile in the extreme due to that in construction, albeit will be reclaimed as I intend to cook down the NYC fleet into just two consists.

I did enjoy doing the interior though using more cut Evergreen styrene and modeling and baking Femo plastic putty to fabricate the built-in couches.

[steamaheadstephen59]

Okay I think Ive figured the photo side, here goes. Some Walthers Santa Fe cars, I picked up in Aussi https://photos.app.goo.gl/mWzhy1q3crBpyaoQ8 Well not exactly the way I wonted it to turn out, still its there

[steamaheadstephen59]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/D5aohrwVnDtMErwP7 combine, cant seem to insert into the journal as a picture just a link?

[sarge]

Pete, hate to disagree with you on this one, but I adore the ICC kits. My only grump is Vane had the bad graces to die (without asking permission) before he did the second unit to that diner (Grin!)

There are tricks to building those cars, like filling the integral windows with Elmers before painting as a mask, and making dam sure you use a plastic compatible paint, for that clear styrene is merciless of maltreatment. I have a 56-chair PS NYC coach here that I’ll post photos of later (upload issues again). I didn’t build this particular one, but a good friend did. He did a masterful job of it and its as robust a car as any. He mailed it to me with no ill effect: the ultimate test. Grin!

Like the Am/Stands, you do run strips inside to firm up the assembly and set the roof. I agree on the brittleness of the bits themselves, though not that it really is a disadvantage. The parts are injection moulded and all the bits really are no more fragile than the average Airfix we built (and blew up) in our youths.

Regarding dimensions, you got me curious. I just now cracked out my red Randall & Ross PS book, the NYC volume, got width, height, and length from the original drawings within, and gave that car a measure. Not remotely oversized, let alone 17/64” I’m afraid. Its quite good on those dimensions.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

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[steamaheadstephen59]

Thanks Rufus that help is much appreciated

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Thanks Rufus that help is much appreciated

One tries,

[bob turner]

Here is a Kasiner "smoothie"

[Nortonville Phil]

Hi,

I have a project to mount trucks on 4 ex 3 rail K line heavy weight cars. These just have a flat floor. I will be mounting Walthers trucks on the cars. My question is: what do body bolsters look like on heavyweight cars? Do they look similar to freight car body bolsters? Or are they something like a square platform with raised round boss? I can make whatever I need but I have not been able to find a photo. Thanks,

[Rufus T. Firefly]

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[bob turner]

These cars are "worthy" of a more or less accurate underframe, but I chose a full length wood beam, with appropriate cutouts for the steel floor dimples, and holes for the wiring. Then I just attached some random boxes to simulate underbody detail.

What You can do is look for Erik's photo essays of the Wasatch UP cars over on NK. He has some really good underframe shots.

Edit: here you go. Would be better if he removed a truck. Might ask him?

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/was ... enger-cars

[Rufus T. Firefly]

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