Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

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Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby De Bruin » Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:05 am

One of my local compadres talked me into painting a Dreyfuss J3a in its war-time configuration with trimmed down shrouding and the PT “centipede” tender. I normally turn down steam projects. In my experience (and rudimentary skill-set) they always take more time than they’re worth but we negotiated a path forward that had me only painting the disassembled model components.
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Regardless, the model (Westside) was so good that I wound up sweating virtually every prototype detail about it anyway and given the paucity of good war-time photos I had to lean on Sarge for a lot of the details as fortunately for me he's painted more than a few of these. Still the project wound up taking the better part of six months, though in part that included waiting on custom printed decals.
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I used True Color for the light-grey and dark grey. Likewise, a variety of Rustoleum, Krylon and Ace for other greys and blacks on the various underframe appliances and back head cab details.
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The cab details benefited from a method Brian suggested wherein a punch template is made from metal block and wood with various drill bit diameters to make the various lens sizes for the cab gauges which turned out nicely, such that my customer is making a light harness for the cab interior. Also there are at least three different shades of grey/black used here accentuate the detail depth-wise.
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I would have preferred a split cab window here but didn’t want to get into cutting and soldiering one.
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Decals were custom printed by High-Ball Graphics and a joy to apply, not perfect but pretty damn good and again process-wise fabulous.
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Despite a few shortcomings, this model was still absurdly well-designed and manufactured, I learned a lot here, note the blue NYC oval above the pilot is an actual cast piece with raised NYC lettering. :shock: Wow.
I'll share more photos of the finished product as I get them.
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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfus J3a

Postby sarge » Thu Oct 02, 2025 5:27 am

Oh, I do love a Hudson and that is one of my favourite NYC Hudsons both historically and in form. It came out very well!

I'm biased of course, as the Westside KTM wartime Dreyfuss is also one of my three favourite Hudson models, the other two also being KTM, the Westside J1e and the PSC Crown destreamlined J3a.

Those things are one of those models that are both a joy and a death-march to paint. Well done!

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfus J3a

Postby Norton » Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:21 am

Nicely done. The shade of gray is always up for debate as there are few if any color photographs of the Drefusses. The New York Central Historical Society has an extensive collection of photographs of nearly every NYC Locomotive. I believe you can order full size prints of the ones posted there.

https://nycshs.omeka.net/photographs

Cab 5451

https://nycshs.omeka.net/items/browse?t ... 451&page=1

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfus J3a

Postby up148 » Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:24 am

Outstanding paint job! I'm hoping mine come out that good. Your decal work and the back head gauge faces look super.

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfus J3a

Postby Dennis Holler » Thu Oct 02, 2025 10:25 am

Man that is nice!
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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby bob turner » Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:14 pm

From the Vintage Dreyfus Hudson thread of last year:

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Not nearly as nice as the above, but on the other hand I have less than fifty bucks invested in it. That's a $20 Williams boiler.

If the thread title can be changed, I think Dreyfus has only one "s."

Note Sarge's correction below:
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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby sarge » Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:14 pm

bob turner wrote:
If the thread title can be changed, I think Dreyfus has only one "s."


Two is correct, Bob, after Henry Dreyfuss, the industrial designer.

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby bob turner » Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:23 pm

By golly, you are correct. I will make corrections, but leave my assertion so yours makes sense.

When I Google "Dreyfuss" it does not come up with Henry, but adding Henry takes me to Wikipedia and a photo of the Hudson. I never cared much for the original with bathtub tender, but really like the two versions above.

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby up148 » Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:43 pm

Yours looks great too Bob. What an iconic locomotive.

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Oct 02, 2025 3:46 pm

sarge wrote:
bob turner wrote:
If the thread title can be changed, I think Dreyfus has only one "s."


Two is correct, Bob, after Henry Dreyfuss, the industrial designer.


Yes. Perhaps Bob is thinking of Alfred Dreyfus and the Dreyfus Affair, :wink: :wink:
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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby bob turner » Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:35 pm

I was! But I like to get at least names spelled correctly - and in this case I shall not forget the different spellings.

My Hudson collection - Lionel 763, MTH scale Hudson (new frame, Lobaugh drivers), Scale Craft, a fantasy SP, and this one.

My Dreyfuss has Williams boiler modified, scratch frame and drivers, rods from my masters in nickel silver, and wood block/Lobaugh tender. Runs great!

Edit: I just ran across some 35 year old photos of Lawrence Dreyfuss' SP locomotives. They were quite good!

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby Norton » Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:20 pm

Actually there is a Henri Dreyfus. He was a chemist and among other things invented cellulose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Dreyfus

I only became aware of him a few years ago when a faculty member at the University I used to work at received the Dreyfus Prize and I couldn’t understand the connection to the industrial designer?? Live and learn.

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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby SWrailroader » Sat Oct 04, 2025 8:15 am

Jim,
That is really nice work!
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Re: Well this was different, Dreyfuss J3a

Postby Carey Williams » Sat Oct 04, 2025 5:52 pm

Beautiful job painting the Dreyfus


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