Unknown REAL doorstop

[ScaleCraft]

Geared 1 and 3, horizontal motor above axles.



Siderods and mains are flimsy thin shot metal since no load on rods. Cast BoxPox, with THICK tires, all six flanged, 1/4" sideplay on each axle.



No idea yet who made it, but the castings are rough and classify as a doorstop.

[R.K. Maroon]

Well, that is one way to make small drivers bigger. I can't imagine that the driver castings were designed small with the idea that large tires would be used, but I guess stranger things have happened. Tender?

[ScaleCraft]

No tender, but I did discover the pilot and cowcatcher exist, along with something else knocked off the side. They are being mailed to me.

[sarge]

Certainly NYC in form, and everything above the running board looks like a crisp diecasting, not Frenchcast. The rivet on the lead truck is a very modern looking hollow rivet.

Could it be a modification of a modern tinplate NYC Hudson with a well-engineered albeit basic drive conversion? Might be worth popping the boiler off and see if there are any markings within...

Needs an eccentric crank on the side you show.

[J. S. Bach]

The trailing truck made me think of Lionel as its construction looks the one on my T1.

[ScaleCraft]

I sent out 15 photos to...5 or 6 people who might give me a clue as to origin.
Got a call back a bit over an hour ago....Dana Barlow, in Florida built these.....and if you remember the thread on Subway cars I had here...same guy.

[Carey Williams]

Hello Door stoppers
Interesting engine .. it did look too modern for the era when Door stops roamed the rails freely.

Dana "Lee" Barlow of Lee Lines trains is known in the Standard Gauge world for his production of the Daylight pulling a string on streamlined cars offered first in 1976 so of course offered in Bicentennial colors along with Daylight colors and black.
Limited production to 50 engines only about half as many sets of cars were made.

The standard gauge market for anything new looking is a very small pond in which to fish .
Dana about 1980 expanded to 1 gauge offering his passenger cars and found a bit of a market till the big producerers were able to under cut his price point.
I had no idea Dana produced O gauge .
Thank you very much for posting the photos

Last year the remains of Lee Lines was sold to Jim Waterman of NJ , he was able to piece together 8 Daylight sets and modified two engines into The N&W J.
Here is a link to more about Dana
http://www.tcawestern.org/lee.htm

Below photo of one of the new sets put together this year using parts made in 1976.
Cheers Carey
Can you please post a photo of the tender if possible ... thank you

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[ScaleCraft]

No tender. None here. Or there.
I spent quite some time with Barlow on the phone when we were discovering provenance on the Subway Cars.
He told me he still had two full trains on display on shelves.

These are the Subway Cars, effectively as-delivered (and ends stuck back into the bodies):


A LOT of work to bring them to functional again.
They were stripped, filed, sanded, resin ends had broken parts filled with JBQuik, filed, sanded, all repainted, all sideframes removed (when is the last time you saw Blombergs on a subway car...or AAR), an power car (center unit) lowered to match the end cars.

Oh...and none of these cars or engine are Standard Gauge (2-1/8"). They are #1 Gauge, 1.777"

[Watermaj]

Folks,

With Carey's help, I found this site.
I bought out the remains of the Lee Lines (later called G Action Models, when Dana Barlow gave up on Standard Gauge).
I found, in this stuff, the pattern for the sides of these subway cars, a bunch of resin cast Blomberg truck frames that attach to Aristo (I think) diesel mechanisms as well as a few resin cast ends. Never knew these were actually produced. Another little piece of history revealed!

Jim Waterman

[ScaleCraft]

Oh yeah. Rough.
You ought to see the sideframes.

IF I intended to put them back onto a subway car, it would take weeks of JB Weld, filing, sanding, and painting to make them 10 foot frames.
As it is, they reside in a box.

I won't tell you what they did with the lights in the ends.




and of course, NWSL power trucks: