The Real Story of January 6th

[robert.]

One thing i can say about the republicans is. " They have many recognizable names. They did well in keeping their names out there". Dems not so well. Things can change in two years.

Robert This country is like a pendulum it swings back a forth. The people say this isn't working so they swing the other direction and then they come to the conclusion that isn't working so they swing back the other direction.....

Sad the pendulum swings left and right. Always the same path and answers. Maybe if it swung in a different direction things would be better

[v8vega]

"How can you be so dumb?"

How can you be so dumb as to think politicians determine inflation, economic growth or immigration? Countries in Europe with similar economies to ours (UK, Italy, Sweden, etc.) all have high inflation, economic troubles and immigration problems. None of them are run by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. None of them are socialist, communist or fascist. Try to learn something from history and reality. It bears no resemblance to the agenda currently being pushed by the MAGA nincompoops .

All these problems came as soon as Biden was installed. Things were great under Trump.

[Neil]

Total BS. How can something that happened all over the world be attributed to the administration of one country? You are the prisoner of warped and ideologic political thinking. Perhaps Biden is responsible for lunar and solar eclipses too? Son of a gun turns off the lights, which the Republicans and Trump would never do .

[Rufus T. Firefly]

"How can you be so dumb?"

How can you be so dumb as to think politicians determine inflation, economic growth or immigration? Countries in Europe with similar economies to ours (UK, Italy, Sweden, etc.) all have high inflation, economic troubles and immigration problems. None of them are run by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. None of them are socialist, communist or fascist. Try to learn something from history and reality. It bears no resemblance to the agenda currently being pushed by the MAGA nincompoops .

All these problems came as soon as Biden was installed. Things were great under Trump.

You're in serious need of professional help for those delusions.

[gregj410]

The 1st house we bought in the 80's we had an interest rate of 12%. We were lucky to get that as it went up the next day. Amazing how everyone forgets the 80's. Today's mortgage rates are not even 1/2 of that

Right and who was president prior? I’m sure this is all just coincidental We didn’t forget the 80’s we just don’t want to relive them.

The car we bought in '83 we got a loan of 16%. Commercials on TV are showing 3.49%.

Everyone gets hosed on interest rates when they are starting out or maybe you were delinquent on previous loans causing your rates to be higher.

Everyone has gotten spoiled.

So what’s your point? Furthermore if the president has know bearing on these issues than why do you and Dr Donkeypox come on here and bloviate about Trumps short comings?

[gregj410]

individual who has used racism, xenophobia, misogyny

Same tired lines with zero to back it other than your delusional news channel.

The problem is that a significant portion of the Republican party has bought into his lies about his past history of sexual violence

I think Dr Donkeypox has had one to many Covid boosters. It’s your party that rapes and gropes woman, exposes themselves to minors and molests children…..I’ll bet you mother is so proud that you support such behavior.

The human race will make progress despite the best attempts of barbarians/conservatives

Wasn’t it your party that stood up and applauded when every Democrat voted for 3rd trimester partial birth abortions? I believe they deliver the head, stab it in the back of the neck with a scalpel and then suck the child’s brains out and simply dispose of the child in a waste basket. You see, I’m calling it a child because that’s what it is, however I’m sure you in all your vast and infinite wisdom will talk yourself in to believing it’s just a blob of cells. Sick!

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I would offer the observation that , due to his lethally serious narcissism, Trump missed a huge opportunity to distinguish himself as a world-class statesman by going to the capital, electronically and/or actually, to immediately diffuse the whole demonstration by telling them all “Thanks but most important is the USA ; disperse immediately and go home.”

Instead, I believe he has in that noggin a new Pledge of Allegiance,” such as...
We pledge allegiance to me, and to the autocracy which should stand, one nation underTrump, with liberty. and freedom for all who love Trump.

Or words to that effect.

I’m serious . He would like all citizens to pledge allegiance to him, not to the country itself.

Ironically, he’d have gotten great praise and loyalties had he put the well-being of the country and The Capitol ahead of himself (even if he didn’t believe it) and helped put an immediate end to that demonstration by reminding everyone of how precious the good of the country is to him and it’s citizens.

[Neil]

No question the main lesion is a malignant narcissism unequaled in 200+ years of American national politics. A truly deranged human being. Just ask Mike Pence .

The notion that the individuals being prosecuted for their actions on Jan. 6th are patriots is absurd. The notion that those being prosecuted were just standing around outside the Congress peacefully protesting is a verifiable lie. These are deeply misguided individuals who were in many instances committing criminal offenses. Much more threatening to our way of life than the idiots and jackasses who committed similar criminal offenses during the George Floyd protests.

[robert.]

Dollar for dollar George Floyed protests set us back further. You could also walk it down a path of causing a larger racial divide. Floyd’s case showed us what is really wrong with American’s views. Nobody gets arrested for a fake $20. Police officers are not trained in spotting fakes

[G3750]

If you think Trump is a decent human being, there is nothing anyone can say or that he can do to change your mind George. But to many of us, he's clearly a devious, dishonest, Machiavellian individual who has used racism, xenophobia, misogyny and other bad stuff to win the votes of too many of our fellow citizens who share these prejudices. The problem is that a significant portion of the Republican party has bought into his lies about his past history of sexual violence, his relationship with Putin, the election, Jan. 6th and the role of immigration in our society. Not to mention his and their desire to deprive women of agency and reproductive freedom.

First, I never said Trump (the person) is a decent human being. He's quite flawed personally and I have no desire to worship or even meet him, ever. But when it comes to policy and governing deliberately with the nation's best interest at heart, no one and I mean NO ONE in the last 40 years has done a better job. That's an argument you can't defeat.

There is hope, as progress does occur. Romney and several other Republicans supported legal rights for those who do not conform to traditional concepts of sexual biology by allowing these people free association through marriage. This would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. The human race will make progress despite the best attempts of barbarians/conservatives to cling to cruel and false narratives about people and government. Monarchy anyone? I think not.

Romney? Mitt Romney? the ultimate RINO and milquetoast?

Thank you, I haven't laughed that hard in weeks.

As for the legal rights for those who do not conform to the traditional concepts of sexual biology? Let's return to the traditional (since the beginning of recorded history) care of these poor individuals - by treating them as the psychotic wretches they are. It's dead simple. Check your plumbing. If you've got external apparatus - you're a guy. If you have internal fittings - you're a girl. End of discussion. Anything else is delusional and / or psychotic.

Glad to know that I'm regarded as a barbarian. Yeah, the straight, honest, Church-going barbarian - that's me.

Funny, how it's generally the Democrats / Liberals that label people (as we've just seen) and play identity politics. These are the same people that:

• Pretend to tolerate everyone - except conservatives
• Believe in free speech - as long as you agree with them. And use the media to suppress everything else.
• Hold the completely un-American view that bigger government is better

As for Trump winning in 2024, it would take the sort of economic disaster that thrust Hitler into power in the 1930s to have that happen. Even a substantial number of registered Republican voters find him reprehensible at worst, and a boat anchor at best. He's recognizably evil to many of us, if not to you.

Honestly, I'm not interested in the registered Republican dupes and stooges of the Republican Accountability project (aka Never Trumpers). I've seen their TV ads. These people are either blissfully unaware of the truth or in denial. Either way, they don't represent me or nigh-on 80,000,000 angry Americans.

As for economic disasters, Biden is trying hard to precipitate that economic black swan event. He, or rather his puppeteers, think that making more people dependent upon government is to their favor. However, many recognize that when Trump was in office, many reaped real economic rewards. Joe still hasn't figured out that dismantling smart Trump oil policies has led to high costs in food production (fertilizer and mechanized farming), transportation, and other downstream impacts. But, Joe can truly say "I did that".

Whether the nominee is Trump or DeSantis - they will get my vote.

George

[robert.]

Would you vote for trump out of revenge or do you believe in him? think He'll be too old. The Republican party here wants no part of him. He does manage to sell a lot of tee shirts here.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

He does manage to sell a lot of tee shirts here.

What he does best; sells people stuff they don't even understand they don't need or want, and pockets the money.

[gregj410]

He does manage to sell a lot of tee shirts here.

What he does best; sells people stuff they don't even understand they don't need or want, and pockets the money.

Biden’s right up there with the let’s go Brandon merchandise

[up148]

Well said G3750. Haven't heard such a common sense rant about the LGTYERDJSI group in a long time. Pretty tired about seeing the rights of minority groups taking precedence over the rights of the majority. If they want to be that way...so be it. But, don't cater to them, while dissing the rest of the population.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

.......a common sense rant about .....