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CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:28 am
by HONDO74
China: MI5 and FBI heads warn of ‘immense’ threat
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62064506

The heads of UK and US security services have made an unprecedented joint appearance to warn of the threat from China.

FBI director Christopher Wray said China was the "biggest long-term threat to our economic and national security" and had interfered in politics, including recent elections.

MI5 head Ken McCallum said his service had more than doubled its work against Chinese activity in the last three years and would be doubling it again.

MI5 is now running seven times as many investigations related to activities of the Chinese Communist Party compared to 2018, he added.

The FBI's Wray warned that if China was to forcibly take Taiwan it would "represent one of the most horrific business disruptions the world has ever seen".

In response, China Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said British intelligence was trying to "hype up the China threat theory" and he advised the head of MI5 to "cast away imagined demons".

He said the FBI director had also been "playing up the China threat to smear and attack China" revealing a "Cold War mentality" and urged him to stop making "irresponsible" remarks.

The first ever joint public appearance by the two directors came at MI5 headquarters in Thames House, London.

McCallum also said the challenge posed by the Chinese Communist Party was "game-changing", while Wray called it "immense" and "breath-taking".

Wray warned the audience - which included chief executives of businesses and senior figures from universities - that the Chinese government was "set on stealing your technology" using a range of tools.

He said it posed "an even more serious threat to western businesses than even many sophisticated businesspeople realised". He cited cases in which people linked to Chinese companies out in rural America had been digging up genetically modified seeds which would have cost them billions of dollars and nearly a decade to develop themselves.

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:21 am
by E7
Nothing new here. I had a high school course called "Current History and Economics" and the instructor said China was the elephant in the room. He said in terms of disarmament that if all nations disarmed down to clubs, China would be a force to be reckoned with.

That was back in the mid 60's!

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:39 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
HONDO74 wrote:China: MI5 and FBI heads warn of ‘immense’ threat


And this is new how? Just goes to show for 70+ years that we've been ignoring the threat....

He cited cases in which people linked to Chinese companies out in rural America had been digging up genetically modified seeds which would have cost them billions of dollars and nearly a decade to develop themselves.


That's hilarious. You don't have to dig them up - just buy them or better yet, just wait until the seeds drift across the road and collect them. But honestly, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Monsanto et. al. They're 1st cousins of big pharma....

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:44 pm
by ScaleCraft
"The FBI's Wray warned that if China was to forcibly take Taiwan it would "represent one of the most horrific business disruptions the world has ever seen"."

And Brandon's response would be: "That would mean World War Three!"

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:02 pm
by HONDO74
China
Published July 29, 2022 3:56pm EDT
Chinese state media personality suggests shooting down Pelosi's plane in Taiwan
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi may visit Taiwan during closely watched Asia trip

The former chief editor of the Chinese Communist Party's state tabloid, the Global Times, suggested the country shoot down U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi for visiting Taiwan if her plane refuses to divert course.

China's government has warned it will take "forceful measures" if Pelosi visits Taiwan after the Financial Times reported she would travel to the Chinese-claimed island nation next month.

Hu Xijin, former chief editor of the Global Times, called Pelosi's planned visit an "invasion," and suggested shooting down the speaker's plane if U.S. fighter jets escort it to Taiwan.

"If US fighter jets escort Pelosi’s plane into Taiwan, it is invasion," Xijin wrote.

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:06 pm
by robert.
That’s an interesting state. If fighter pilots escort her. Send her without an escort. My take. We owe China way to much money for them to pull this stunt. They want their monies not not www3.

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:57 pm
by HONDO74
robert. wrote:That’s an interesting state. If fighter pilots escort her. Send her without an escort. My take. We owe China way to much money for them to pull this stunt. They want their monies not not www3.


They will gladly trade the money for Taiwan :wink:

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:18 am
by gregj410
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi may visit Taiwan during closely watched Asia trip


Hopefully she’ll be joined by the squad and a few others I can think of. :D

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:01 pm
by HONDO74
gregj410 wrote:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi may visit Taiwan during closely watched Asia trip


Hopefully she’ll be joined by the squad and a few others I can think of. :D


I doubt it, she doesn't get along with the squad and their extreme left agenda and they voted against her being speaker. they want her replaced with their own kind...

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:02 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
HONDO74 wrote:The former chief editor of the Chinese Communist Party's state tabloid, the Global Times, suggested the country shoot down U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi for visiting Taiwan if her plane refuses to divert course.


Apparently China has "media personalities" just as stupid as the US ones. How stupid are they........ Reminds me of Pat Robertson advocating assassination.....

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:56 pm
by HONDO74
I have to ask why is Pelosi going to Taiwan in the first place.

US military making plans in case Pelosi travels to Taiwan
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

On Wednesday, China’s Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the presidential phone call. However, spokesperson Zhao Lijian reiterated China’s warnings over a Pelosi visit. “If the U.S. insists on going its own way and challenging China’s bottom line, it will surely be met with forceful responses,” Zhao told reporters at a daily briefing. “All ensuing consequences shall be borne by the U.S.”

Milley said this week that the number of intercepts by Chinese aircraft and ships in the Pacific region with U.S. and other partner forces has increased significantly over the past five years. He said Beijing’s military has become far more aggressive and dangerous, and that the number of unsafe interactions has risen by similar proportions.

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:59 pm
by ScaleCraft
wonder how Brandon will respond to avoiding WWIII with Russia by not actively supporting (say "air cover") Ukraine, but the Wicked Witch of the West starts WWIII with the PRC and that's okay.

Politics.


As Pope Innocent III is alleged to have said in 1209, with the supposed edict to the Crusaders against the Cathars, well, you look it up.

And I am not certain how many the Lord would recognize as his own in that batch of clowns.
But you never know.

Lord, Lord, did we not oppress your people with the laws we passed? Did we not ensure all the children were killed we could get away with? Did we not allow rioters, looters to destroy our cities?
Did we not make absolutely certain no oversight was given to prevent fraud and oppression of the weak, infirm and elderly, while making sure our wealth was insured?
Did we not make back room deals that were never revealed to the unwashed masses, of which we are not a part?
Did we not send our young men and women into war, then tie their hands, preventing victory, for our own Glory and political gain?
Lord, Lord, are you not proud of our actions?
Certainly you will allow us into Your Rest.

Re: CHINA A THREAT

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:11 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
HONDO74 wrote:I have to ask why is Pelosi going to Taiwan in the first place.


Might be related to chip supply.....short-term, the US has a pretty serious dependency on Taiwan. But that still doesn't explain much related to her traveling there.