Electric cars

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[Rufus T. Firefly]

For those that continually seem worried about effective distance, the new Volvo claims a 500 mile range.

[healey36]

For those that continually seem worried about effective distance, the new Volvo claims a 500 mile range.

Likely 200 or less on the highway with the a/c running.

[HONDO74]

For those that continually seem worried about effective distance, the new Volvo claims a 500 mile range.

I was more concerned about not be able to charge the batteries overnight in the garage because the batteries can over heat and cause a fire. That was the recommendation from the manufacture.....

[gregj410]

For those that continually seem worried about effective distance, the new Volvo claims a 500 mile range.

Thanks for clearing that up. That’s going to help solidify my choice of the combustion engine

[robert.]

Remember when airlines did not allow Samsung phones on planes? Their litho battery could cause a fire. Kids toys still burn houses down. A guy in the antique motorcycle club of America had his barn burn down. That fire wad started by a battery tender. You need to be careful of all electronics in your house. My wife wońt let the dryer run while we are out.
The guys that invent automobiles rode horsrs while the sorted out car troubles. Electric cars will get bettet by the day

[HONDO74]

Remember when airlines did not allow Samsung phones on planes? Their litho battery could cause a fire. Kids toys still burn houses down. A guy in the antique motorcycle club of America had his barn burn down. That fire wad started by a battery tender. You need to be careful of all electronics in your house. My wife wońt let the dryer run while we are out.
The guys that invent automobiles rode horsrs while the sorted out car troubles. Electric cars will get bettet by the day

It;s not just cars that have a problem with Litho Batteries.

2 hospitalized after wheelchair battery catches fire
https://www.ky3.com/2022/11/23/2-hospit ... ches-fire/

Firefighters say an electronic wheelchair’s lithium-ion battery was charging when it caught fire.

[healey36]

Similar problem in NYC and other large cities with electric bicycles:

https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/11/21/23468257/ebikes-fires-lithium-ion-batteries-delivery-workers

A couple of reports I've read attribute these e-bike fires to replacement batteries purchased by riders that are either second-hand or of an incorrect type (an effort by owners to sidestep the high cost of OEM replacements).

I seem to remember a similar issue with kids' hover-boards years ago, to a point where they were prohibited from being packed in luggage for air-travel.

It would be depressing to find your garage burned to the ground by your kid's self-immolating electric scooter.

[up148]

Sold some car seats to a fellow in PA yesterday and his son is higher up in PPL (Pennsylvania Power & Light). He told his dad that if even 1/3 of the cars registered in PA today were converted to EV they would have to ration electricity or go without for one day a week. He said unless something changes, electricity will be rationed in the future.

I know burning fossil fuels has to stop, but the power grid in this country, that has needed to be updated for decades, can not support the demand.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

........ the power grid in this country, that has needed to be updated for decades......

This as well as other bits have continually been kicked down the road. Things are going to collapse from within eventually....

[healey36]

So do we wait for the public utilities to fund and execute the required expansion, or do we look for intervention/incentivization (i.e. subsidies) by the government? Some utilities in the Northeast have already stated they have little capability to sharply increase power production.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

So do we wait for the public utilities to fund and execute the required expansion, or do we look for intervention/incentivization (i.e. subsidies) by the government?

I doubt there is a single answer or solution. It's going to take more "alternate" sources to be integrated vs. the now routine actions of resistance and protectionism. Lots of business opportunities reside in solar that could make lots of jobs in the US that would go along ways. I'm sure that a truckload of monkey wrenches will find their way into the mix.

[robert.]

Come up with a Dyson sphere. Or we’re headed towards a Malthusian ending.

[E7]

That cinches it, I'm keeping my Pinto! The plug keeps getting pulled out of the outlet in the garage when I try and take my electric car out onto the street. They rush to get this junk onto the market and we end up with crap. Add to that how much do they REALLY know about climate change, considering the number of recorded ice ages. Be kinda perverse to be sitting there in your new electric Voltmobile freezing your nuts off. We'll all hafta move in with Turner out in sunny San Diego!!!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

.....we’re headed towards a Malthusian ending.

Only if that is what we choose to do....and if Malthus was actually correct.