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N.J. coronavirus update: Health care workers to receive first doses of vaccine
Gov. Phil Murphy announced that some New Jersey health care workers will receive the first doses of the state’s coronavirus vaccine allotment Tuesday.

I've been following several state doing health care workers first in staggered shifts; nursing homes are supposed to be next. Some logistics and training issues in those seem to be a problem as well as obtaining informed consent.

I wonder if he sent President Trump a thank you card for implementing Operation Warp Speed.

gregj410 wrote:I wonder if he sent President Trump a thank you card for implementing Operation Warp Speed.

I wouldn't count on it....wrong color state. The healthcare first is pretty much a no-brainer despite the post title.

E7 wrote:I wouldn't count on it....wrong color state. The healthcare first is pretty much a no-brainer despite the post title.

I think it's also the recommendation from the CDC as to prioritization. One hopes that all the rest follow through similarly.

I think the money thrown at vaccine companies is one of the few things the Trump administration did right in this pandemic. That said, this first vaccine wasn't part of Operation Warp Speed. It was developed independently with no federal funding.

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:

E7 wrote:I wouldn't count on it....wrong color state. The healthcare first is pretty much a no-brainer despite the post title.

I think it's also the recommendation from the CDC as to prioritization. One hopes that all the rest follow through similarly.

What's your take on Pfizer's ceo not taking the vaccine? Nice guy or scared stiff?. I think he is in a cant win situation with making people feel happy. Yet he should have taken it. Show confidence in your product.

Either take it, or step down.

Neil wrote:I think the money thrown at vaccine companies is one of the few things the Trump administration did right in this pandemic. That said, this first vaccine wasn't part of Operation Warp Speed. It was developed independently with no federal funding.

In a crisis like this, ALL the companies should have been full steam ahead without incentives.

E7 wrote:

Neil wrote:I think the money thrown at vaccine companies is one of the few things the Trump administration did right in this pandemic. That said, this first vaccine wasn't part of Operation Warp Speed. It was developed independently with no federal funding.

In a crisis like this, ALL the companies should have been full steam ahead without incentives.

Neil can never fully give credit where credit is due because it’s Trump. 2 years from now he’ll be praising Biden for the vaccine. Like another on this forum who rips Trump because he didn’t acknowledge the people dying from covid yet he can’t find it in himself to thank President Trump for moving the ball forward rather quickly on the development of this vaccine, which will now save many lives. Had Biden been at the helm 3 million would have been dead and the media would have been giving him a tongue bath over how great he is.

I said Trump did a good job fostering vaccines. Just had no role in Pfizer’s. Your knee jerk response is absurd.

Of course, if we turn to interfering with the NIH, CDC and other federal agencies trying to give correct messages to the public, the Trump administration's array of totally ignorant political tools deserve to go to prison for murder . Including the President himself, for lying to the public about life and death matters. Kind of negates the praise on the vaccine issue to some extent. Even his hand picked CDC appointees resigned in horror at the interference and blatant stupidity from the White House.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... washington
Pfizer grant money.

robert. wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-09/pfizer-vaccine-s-funding-came-from-berlin-not-washington
Pfizer grant money.

Pfizer has done all it can to avoid entering into agreements with the Gov't to take R&D money to maintain its control and ownership of the technology. What funding they have gotten it for final product and distribution. This is all known information.

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Pfizer has done all it can to avoid entering into agreements with the Gov't to take R&D money to maintain its control and ownership of the technology. What funding they have gotten it for final product and distribution. This is all known information.

Don't want to give up a possible cash cow, eh.