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A topic I would not expect to see on MTJ. Err. Yes I would.

Postby rogruth » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:39 pm

There seem to be more commercials on TV these days, with the exception of political ones, selling medicine than most other stuff.
My question is where do they get thse names for them? The generic names don't seem to have in relation to other names in use.
Right now I can't think of any of those names. When I see some I will try to post them.

Here's two. Cosentyx and Rinvoq. Where do these names come from? Do they have any actual connection to the medicine?
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Postby chuck » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:50 pm

I think it's like Peter Cook's role in the Princess Bride "Impressive Clergyman".

Made up out of thin air with two constraints:

a) Sounds interesting/"appealing". If it's "catchy" or "easy to remember" so much the better.

b) Is not or at least does not sound like anything else already on the market.
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Postby rogruth » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:52 pm

I don't know how I posted this topic twice. Sorry.
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Postby robert. » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:29 am

Many drugs get their name based on their chemical compounds. each name must be so unique that it is not confused with another drug when prescribed.
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Postby rogruth » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:53 am

robert. wrote:Many drugs get their name based on their chemical compounds. each name must be so unique that it is not confused with another drug when prescribed.

That makes sense. Can you give some examples?
What is the derivation of Rinvoq?
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Postby chuck » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:20 am

Here is the wikipedia page on Rinvoq (the Trade Name). Its actual name is Upadacitinib and its designator is ABT-494

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upadacitinib

I read through the wiki page three times and I can't find anything related to "Rinvoq" other than it's the drugs registered trade name.
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:30 am

Drugs have at least 3 names; trade name (what you see on the label and in commercials, e.g. Rinvoq, a JAK1 inhibitor) which comes from a marketing department with some FDA approval, registered FDA drug name, e.g. Upadacitinib which actually translates to other information usually regarding class of drug and mechanism and maybe even origin, and then there's an actual chemical name that might be rather long and near incomprehensible and in this case that's: (3S,4R)-3-Ethyl-4-(3H-imidazo[1,2- a]pyrrolo[2,3-e]pyrazin-8-yl)-N-(2,2,2-trifluoroethyl)pyrrolidine-1-carboxamide hydrate (2:1).

ABT-494 is the name that the company uses from its development records - AbbVie
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Postby rogruth » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:37 am

chuck wrote:Here is the wikipedia page on Rinvoq (the Trade Name). Its actual name is Upadacitinib and its designator is ABT-494

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upadacitinib

I read through the wiki page three times and I can't find anything related to "Rinvoq" other than it's the drugs registered trade name.

Do they just make up names like that for unknown reasons? Why not Qovnir? Makes as much sense. :roll: :roll:
Maybe it's the initials of some involved persons. Or their pets.
I suppose this is not much different from naming aspirin or penicillin.
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:40 am

rogruth wrote:
chuck wrote:Here is the wikipedia page on Rinvoq (the Trade Name). Its actual name is Upadacitinib and its designator is ABT-494

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upadacitinib

I read through the wiki page three times and I can't find anything related to "Rinvoq" other than it's the drugs registered trade name.

Do they just make up names like that for unknown reasons? Why not Qovnir? Makes as much sense. :roll: :roll:
Maybe it's the initials of some involved persons. Or their pets.
I suppose this is not much different from naming aspirin or penicillin.


That's where marketing departments get involved -- has to be a memorable name you can say easily and roll off your tongue.

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