Model Train Journal

To Quote Rufus. Moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic.

Are we trading one environmental disaster for another.

The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium ... ent-impact

The tricky politics of lithium mining could derail electric cars
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium-mining

Lithium mining is an issue; better battery technology is being developed; consider what battery tech was just 20 years ago.

But, there is a blind sighted aspect to the move away from fossil fuels - something, somewhere has to be used to make electricity. Right now, natural gas is the most economical choice on a large scale and probably relatively an equally decent choice environmentally, at least at the end use stage. This country has really done a great job of sticking its head in the sand regarding other possibilities and ignoring all of the positive economic benefits that these would generate. Not surprisingly, we're lagging behind.........

"Climinate"

Range is the issue for me...speed/competency is largely a non-issue.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a31077399/volkswagen-idr-vs-mclaren-720s-drag-race/

What about heat from electric motors?

healey36 wrote:Range is the issue for me...

600 miles is not far enough for you?

600 miles is on the cusp of what I'd find acceptable. I'm a slow driver...the last thing I want is the necessity of executing a recharge halfway to my destination, tacking on another one to one-and-a-half hours onto the journey.

Who currently has a 600 mile range? Most I've seen indicate 250-300 at best.

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
"Climinate"

Probably got it from Ocrazio Cortez

healey36 wrote:600 miles is on the cusp of what I'd find acceptable. I'm a slow driver...the last thing I want is the necessity of executing a recharge halfway to my destination, tacking on another one to one-and-a-half hours onto the journey.

Who currently has a 600 mile range? Most I've seen indicate 250-300 at best.

Tesla - a Model 3 has been reported to make 600; Model S is rated to 370; 620 miles is what the next cars are set to be.

Again, how far do you really drive - consider daily commuting, errands, etc. Now that I'm only going in to my office on campus, I might average 50 miles a week instead of 50 miles/day.

600 miles is not necessary. I know it sounds nice. A a 600 mile range. I have done a lot of these in my life. It's not something i want to do more of. Your shot when it's over. Philadelphia to Santee SC. is 613 miles. Baltimore to Hardeeville SC. is 602 miles. See how you feel after driving to the SC. GA. border. Baltimore to york 52 miles 104 round trip no charge needed.
I read online that these cars don't like cold weather. Below 25 degrees.

robert. wrote:600 miles is not necessary. I know it sounds nice. A a 600 mile range. I have done a lot of these in my life. It's not something i want to do more of. Your shot when it's over. Philadelphia to Santee SC. is 613 miles. Baltimore to Hardeeville SC. is 602 miles. See how you feel after driving to the SC. GA. border. Baltimore to york 52 miles 104 round trip no charge needed.

All true.

I read online that these cars don't like cold weather. Below 25 degrees.

Volvo is going all electric - given that's Sweden, I'm betting that they have a solution to that if it's true. OTOH, we've had maybe 5 days this winter below 25.

I hate rich people buying expensive new cars getting taxpayer paid subsidies.

v8vega wrote:I hate rich people buying expensive new cars getting taxpayer paid subsidies.

Almost coherent this time.........

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:

v8vega wrote:I hate rich people buying expensive new cars getting taxpayer paid subsidies.

Almost coherent this time.........

Californication

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUKcNNmywk

Tesla 3 is cheaper than my Outback,

Rich people are not running out buying a Prius,

Nobody runs out to buy a prius .they sashay on down to the dealer. Options for cold day use is not optimal and cuts into range.