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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat May 01, 2021 6:26 pm

robert. wrote:Saying Fauci and the CDC are a group of over paid doctors flying around in fancy airplanes.


They are very sadly misinformed, simply ignorant, and/or just making stuff up. They are all on Gov't salaries and in fact probably making 20-30% of what your informant docs are pocketing. And, they are required by law to fly coach under contract carriers. Failure to follow that is what got the HHS Sec. canned a few years ago.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat May 01, 2021 6:34 pm

19,000,000 cases in India, to date;
200,000 deaths.

Scary. Tragic.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby robert. » Sat May 01, 2021 6:49 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:Saying Fauci and the CDC are a group of over paid doctors flying around in fancy airplanes.


They are very sadly misinformed, simply ignorant, and/or just making stuff up. They are all on Gov't salaries and in fact probably making 20-30% of what your informant docs are pocketing. And, they are required by law to fly coach under contract carriers. Failure to follow that is what got the HHS Sec. canned a few years ago.

I may have miss spoke about the CDC . They may have been talking about the World Health
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Sat May 01, 2021 7:26 pm

Fauci, like many of us, got things wrong at some points. For example, we all underestimated the likely size of the pandemic because we were basing our guesses on the MERS and SARS-CoV1 mini-pandemics of earlier decades with similar viruses. Those "only" killed a few hundred people and were self-limited and not very infectious.

Fauci's main claim to fame is as a basic immunologist making important discoveries and having steered HIV research for decades nationally. His main positive role is emphasizing to members of the administration, and particularly the President, that this was a serious problem, public health measures were necessary (closing crowded public venues, masking, distancing outdoors) and that holy hell was breaking loose. We still have misguided fools saying it only kills 1-2% of people infected, and thus the best approach was letting the virus kill a few million people. Trump was one of them and Fauci held him back from doing and saying some really dumb stuff (mostly held him back--there's no restraining a natural genius like The Donald). So Fauci probably saved a few tens or hundreds of thousands of American lives by getting the government to institute changes that bought us time, which turned out to be enough time, amazingly, to develop several vaccines, which will likely save most of our sorry asses :). Although not the sad sacks who think it affects women's fertility or contains a microchip that will make you sound and think like Bernie Sanders.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby robert. » Sat May 01, 2021 8:18 pm

Will the micro chip bring me Bernie's mittens ? May have saved more by closing the boarders. The minute people saw what was happening in China. Bam cancel travel. No sense to do it now. That would fall inline with installing a sprinkler system in a burning house.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Sat May 01, 2021 9:06 pm

If the people from India want to avoid the ban and come to the United States all they have to do is come to Mexico first and them come in through the southern border It's open no bans down there. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Sat May 01, 2021 9:17 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:19,000,000 cases in India, to date;
200,000 deaths.

Scary. Tragic.


The current population of India is 1,391,234,758 as of Saturday, May 1, 2021, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.

They are making hundreds of new replacements every day :wink:

The current population of the United States of America is 332,611,450 as of Saturday, May 1, 2021, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sun May 02, 2021 5:57 am

It all makes me wonder, would a travel-ban have helped save Europe, a bit, from the population (Eurasia & N. Africa) having been so decimated (75-200 million people) by the Black Death (bubonic plague) during the Middle Ages (from 1346 - 1353) ? The ships. The rats. The fleas. But trade sure would have suffered, though.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Tue May 04, 2021 2:11 pm

Why treating Covid-19 with drugs is harder than you think
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2021 ... ntibiotics

Viruses are much more varied, rapidly evolving and hard to access than bacteria – so scientists searching for drug-based treatments have their work cut out.
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The UK's Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, recently announced the creation of an antivirus taskforce to "supercharge" the development of new antiviral drugs. At a Downing Street press conference, Johnson said: "The majority of scientific opinion in this country is still firmly of the view that there will be another wave of Covid at some stage this year." The Prime Minister hopes to have antiviral drugs ready by the autumn to help quell a third wave.

While there are anti-inflammatory drugs that reduce the risk of death from Covid-19, such as dexamethasone and tocilizumab, they are only given to people hospitalised with severe Covid-19. But Johnson wants drugs that can be taken at home, in pill form, that stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 04, 2021 3:00 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Why treating Covid-19 with drugs is harder than you think


No, developing specific anti-viral drugs is way harder. There were 4-5 decent candidates in trials last year, but I've not been following them.

The Prime Minister hopes to have antiviral drugs ready by the autumn to help quell a third wave.


Seems unlikely; only one that I'm aware of that's got any level of approval in the US is remdesivir and that's only because it was already on the shelf and approved for other indications.

tocilizumab


interesting; IL-6 arthritis chimeric...

But Johnson wants drugs that can be taken at home, in pill form, that stop people ending up in hospital on a ventilator.


Pharma would love that as well!
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby gregj410 » Mon May 10, 2021 3:58 pm

https://youtu.be/yqhXoG0KR9s

Not exactly sure what I would expect it to say. I’m sure the viagra label at least let’s you know that while you have an erection that will cut diamonds you could simultaneously have a serious onset of diarrhea :shock:

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon May 10, 2021 4:29 pm

Did you notice she never identifies herself, where she really is, or anything else? Remember the term "fake news"?

Insert is 24 pages long and you can download it any time since it's public.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby gregj410 » Mon May 10, 2021 6:10 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Did you notice she never identifies herself, where she really is, or anything else? Remember the term "fake news"?

Insert is 24 pages long and you can download it any time since it's public.


Link?

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby gregj410 » Wed May 12, 2021 9:39 am

Did you notice she never identifies herself, where she really is, or anything else? Remember the term "fake news"?


Not exactly pertinent to what she is showing the viewer. She opens an unopened vaccine for anyone to see.

Insert is 24 pages long and you can download it any time since it's public.


Really? From where? This I all I could find. I did find this 7 page PDF with some interesting information. First line is telling....probably why the insert is blank.

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https://www.fda.gov/media/146305/download


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